Build That Wall!!

bbsam

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I should also point out its what makes liberal logic so entertaining. one point you justify sanctuary cities on the premise that illegal aliens do not report crime for fear of discovery.
while at the same time you tout the concept that immigrants commit less crimes ignoring the same point you justify sanctuary cities with.
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newfie

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You'd have a point if it were only illegal immigrants perpetrating crimes against other illegal immigrants.

you're grasping for a counter argument. I'm using liberal arguments against each other.

are illegals under reporting crimes to avoid detection the premise for sanctuary cities?
 

newfie

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look at all the victimized citizenry that could have been protected and saved the heartache of criminal activity if our country was serious about border security

Over 250,000 criminal aliens were booked in Texas local jails between June 2011 and April 2018. These individuals were charged with more than 663,000 offenses, including:

  • 1,351 homicide charges
  • 79,049 assault charges
  • 18,685 burglary charges
  • 79,900 drug charges
  • 815 kidnapping charges
  • 44,882 theft charges
  • 50,777 obstructing police charges
  • 4,292 robbery charges
  • 7,156 sexual assault charges
  • 9,938 weapons charges.
 

It will be fine

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you're grasping for a counter argument. I'm using liberal arguments against each other.

are illegals under reporting crimes to avoid detection the premise for sanctuary cities?
You’re implying only immigrants commit crimes against immigrants. Sanctuary laws are intended to allow immigrants to report crimes committed by anyone. What are the reported immigrant crime rates in similarly sized cities with and without sanctuary laws? Preferably from a source that isn’t a white nationalist.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
look at all the victimized citizenry that could have been protected and saved the heartache of criminal activity if our country was serious about border security

Over 250,000 criminal aliens were booked in Texas local jails between June 2011 and April 2018. These individuals were charged with more than 663,000 offenses, including:

  • 1,351 homicide charges
  • 79,049 assault charges
  • 18,685 burglary charges
  • 79,900 drug charges
  • 815 kidnapping charges
  • 44,882 theft charges
  • 50,777 obstructing police charges
  • 4,292 robbery charges
  • 7,156 sexual assault charges
  • 9,938 weapons charges.
Looks like we need better border security. Too bad the president is hung up on his wall.
 

Box Ox

What can be, unburdened by what has been.
look at all the victimized citizenry that could have been protected and saved the heartache of criminal activity if our country was serious about border security

Over 250,000 criminal aliens were booked in Texas local jails between June 2011 and April 2018. These individuals were charged with more than 663,000 offenses, including:

  • 1,351 homicide charges
  • 79,049 assault charges
  • 18,685 burglary charges
  • 79,900 drug charges
  • 815 kidnapping charges
  • 44,882 theft charges
  • 50,777 obstructing police charges
  • 4,292 robbery charges
  • 7,156 sexual assault charges
  • 9,938 weapons charges.

Self-reported Texas DPS numbers look lower.

TxDPS - Texas Criminal Alien Arrest Data

"According to DHS status indicators, over 276,000 criminal aliens have been booked into local Texas jails between June 1, 2011 and December 31, 2018, of which over 186,000 were classified as illegal aliens by DHS.

Between June 1, 2011 and December 31, 2018, these 186,000 illegal aliens were charged with more than 292,000 criminal offenses which included arrests for 539 homicide charges; 32,443 assault charges; 5,695 burglary charges; 36,840 drug charges; 395 kidnapping charges; 15,859 theft charges; 23,487 obstructing police charges; 1,650 robbery charges; 3,428 sexual assault charges; 2,152 sexual offense charges; and 2,949 weapon charges. DPS criminal history records reflect those criminal charges have thus far resulted in over 120,000 convictions including 238 homicide convictions; 13,559 assault convictions; 3,138 burglary convictions; 17,806 drug convictions; 173 kidnapping convictions; 7,064 theft convictions; 11,264 obstructing police convictions; 1,011 robbery convictions; 1,689 sexual assault convictions; 1,148 sexual offense convictions; and 1,280 weapon convictions."
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Self-reported Texas DPS numbers look lower.

TxDPS - Texas Criminal Alien Arrest Data

"According to DHS status indicators, over 276,000 criminal aliens have been booked into local Texas jails between June 1, 2011 and December 31, 2018, of which over 186,000 were classified as illegal aliens by DHS.

Between June 1, 2011 and December 31, 2018, these 186,000 illegal aliens were charged with more than 292,000 criminal offenses which included arrests for 539 homicide charges; 32,443 assault charges; 5,695 burglary charges; 36,840 drug charges; 395 kidnapping charges; 15,859 theft charges; 23,487 obstructing police charges; 1,650 robbery charges; 3,428 sexual assault charges; 2,152 sexual offense charges; and 2,949 weapon charges. DPS criminal history records reflect those criminal charges have thus far resulted in over 120,000 convictions including 238 homicide convictions; 13,559 assault convictions; 3,138 burglary convictions; 17,806 drug convictions; 173 kidnapping convictions; 7,064 theft convictions; 11,264 obstructing police convictions; 1,011 robbery convictions; 1,689 sexual assault convictions; 1,148 sexual offense convictions; and 1,280 weapon convictions."

are you trying to make me feel better about all this criminal activity?
 
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