Career choices

[Jackburton]

UPS was a lot different when they were expanding, demands from shareholders have reduced a lot of the extras that were around. Amazon has yet to face these demands as a growth company, shareholders are much more lenient on a company producing higher margins and profits.

If you need an example, look at Whole Foods two years ago and now. Employees said it was the best place ever, now they are suing.

 

[Tom MacDonald]

UPS was a lot different when they were expanding, demands from shareholders have reduced a lot of the extras that were around. Amazon has yet to face these demands as a growth company, shareholders are much more lenient on a company producing higher margins and profits.

If you need an example, look at Whole Foods two years ago and now. Employees said it was the best place ever, now they are suing.

This is a perspective I have not considered. What extras were around back then can I ask?

 

[km3]

This is a perspective I have not considered. What extras were around back then can I ask?

My building supposedly had a basketball court and arcade at one point. At least, that's what the article 22s tell me.

 

[km3]

My building supposedly had a basketball court and arcade at one point. At least, that's what the article 22s tell me.

But I would also note that if they did exist, they weren't removed by UPS out of spite/cost/greed. They were removed because we desperately needed the space for operations.

 

[watdaflock?]

But I've had really good luck, I know your cynicism and I understand it... But Amazon really does seem to half way care. I mean they have an over the counter medication dispenser available to all employees that includes ibuprofen and even eye drops...

So what? imo you need to think more long term. Amazon is new at this, you can expect changes and a lot of them.
If only comparing fringe benefits yes, most non-union places win. Keep in mind they also can fire you whenever they want.

Amazon is spending lots to bring in quantity at the moment. Lots of shiny bells and whistles right now and even free pain killers.

Just hope to be part of the quality chosen shortly down the road when they make massive cuts and begin restructuring.

 

[Gear]

If this job was half as bad as people say, you would never see someone with over 30 years. Most UPSers with 30+ years are financially stable to retire but they keep going. I doubt they keep going because of how terrible their day goes. The last Inside UPS mail or whatever it is, had a driver with 50 years and he was still going. If you're making 70,000-120,000 a year plus everything else, you're going to have to work for it.

 

[rod]

If this job was half as bad as people say, you would never see someone with over 30 years. Most UPSers with 30+ years are financially stable to retire but they keep going. I doubt they keep going because of how terrible their day goes. The last Inside UPS mail or whatever it is, had a driver with 50 years and he was still going. If you're making 70,000-120,000 a year plus everything else, you're going to have to work for it.

There have been a few 50 years employees -- I would assume mostly feeder drivers. If you are talking about a 50 year delivery driver I would say they had a mental health problem.

 

[km3]

Keep in mind they also can fire you whenever they want.

But most places don't look for any reason to fire you like UPS does.

 

[rod]

If I had to do it over again I would look for a rich widow.

 

[Gear]

There have been a few 50 years employees -- I would assume mostly feeder drivers. If you are talking about a 50 year delivery driver I would say they had a mental health problem.

He was feeders. Its amazing to me that someone could go 50 years with 1 company. I would've retired twice already. Or maybe retired once and quit the second go around, just because I could.

 

[Faceplanted]

Funny how everybody says Amazon is a terrible place to work. I have a few friends who work pt and it seems way better of a place to work pt than ups.

 

[Tom MacDonald]

But most places don't look for any reason to fire you like UPS does.

My job had been threatened more at ups than any other company. I mean real talk

 

[Tom MacDonald]

Funny how everybody says Amazon is a terrible place to work. I have a few friends who work pt and it seems way better of a place to work pt than ups.

It's terrible because of the co workers that bull around while you actually work and they get paid the same... But Amazon especially recently has been really good at holding people accountable

 

[MendozaJ]

There's a small gym in my hub and a few kinesiologists (or maybe physical therapists, I don't know their exact credentials) that will help you work out some kinks and show you some stretches, offer health and wellness tips. All confidential, of course. I think they actually get bored because very few drivers take advantage so they just kind of wander around the building.

 

[Hellobrown2000]

Go for it, you sound like a mary.

 

[Wally]

UPS provides you $80-100k a year.

Don't tell the ex that.

 

[CleverNameHere]

80-100k a year and a horrible lifestyle of physical and mental pain and aggravation. Its not worth it. It just helps the simple minded sleep at night. I'm investigating into amazon as a career if I do not get placed in a non package job real soon here. I'll do whatever else so long as it doesnt involve wearing the slave outfit (browns.) Otherwise I may jump ship to amazon til my lawsuit pays off

 

[LeadBelly]

I've worked for ups for a few years now and I've always had the intention of becoming a pc driver due to high compensation with no college experience. However, since I'm only able to work part time for now due to a disqualification I've had to pick up part time hours at a local Amazon sort facility. I've worked there for 6 months and there are quite a few differences in company culture.

-Amazon supplies mandatory work gloves by body guard to all employees.

-Amazon has an on staff nurse with associates trained in first aid in department called "Amcare". (I was escorted there one day after complaining about knee pain and they actually wrapped my knees for me)

-You are allotted 20 hours personal time every three months to take off work, no questions asked. Run negative balance and you are terminated though so it is up to you to manage it.

-I believe all facilities are climate controlled, mine is for sure.

- if you cannot do a certain job for any reason you are allowed to say no and be reassigned somewhere that works better for you.


These are just a few things off the top of my head, to really put things into perspective for you though I would receive a write up if any manager saw me lifting a package with a "heavy" or "team lift" sticker on the package.

I'm tossing the idea around in my head of going full time at Amazon, going to school on their dime, and getting promoted from within the company with a degree. I guess the reason why I'm posting this is to get your thoughts. I've posted here about being a driver a few times and most of you seemed like you wish you took another career path, well maybe here's my opportunity to switch mine? What do you guys think?

Eventually this entire country will be right to work with a death blow to unions. Once this happens these benefits will dry up at Amazon because the compensation all around will be in the crapper.

 

[Box Ox]

The last Inside UPS mail or whatever it is, had a driver with 50 years and he was still going.

Yeah, you can bet he's not jumping in and out of a PC 200+ times a day with a furniture gallery in the back.

I have a few friends who work pt and it seems way better of a place to work pt than ups.

How's the insurance/pension/hours/opportunities to move up for the average part time Amazonian? Not being sarcastic. Interested to know since (I guess) the implication is that Amazon is the better place for people to seek part time work.

Eventually this entire country will be right to work with a death blow to unions.

I think we can bet on a Trump/Republican Congressional/judicial appointee attempt to move in that direction very soon.

 

[Two Tokes]

I've worked for ups for a few years now and I've always had the intention of becoming a pc driver due to high compensation with no college experience. However, since I'm only able to work part time for now due to a disqualification I've had to pick up part time hours at a local Amazon sort facility. I've worked there for 6 months and there are quite a few differences in company culture.

-Amazon supplies mandatory work gloves by body guard to all employees.

-Amazon has an on staff nurse with associates trained in first aid in department called "Amcare". (I was escorted there one day after complaining about knee pain and they actually wrapped my knees for me)

-You are allotted 20 hours personal time every three months to take off work, no questions asked. Run negative balance and you are terminated though so it is up to you to manage it.

-I believe all facilities are climate controlled, mine is for sure.

- if you cannot do a certain job for any reason you are allowed to say no and be reassigned somewhere that works better for you.


These are just a few things off the top of my head, to really put things into perspective for you though I would receive a write up if any manager saw me lifting a package with a "heavy" or "team lift" sticker on the package.

I'm tossing the idea around in my head of going full time at Amazon, going to school on their dime, and getting promoted from within the company with a degree. I guess the reason why I'm posting this is to get your thoughts. I've posted here about being a driver a few times and most of you seemed like you wish you took another career path, well maybe here's my opportunity to switch mine? What do you guys think?

The way you describe yourself makes me believe you would not make it at UPS. WAY TOO SOFT