I'm not in the Southwest, so it doesn't apply to me or many others on here.
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LagunaBrown
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First off you did not clarify your question but I will go off this. there are 2 points
1) As I said we already have part time employee doing everything a 22.4 does for less including being forced into a T-S schedule so the 22.4 language upgrades that position and that why it is a yes here.
2) We all hired a ton of RPCD’s for Saturday work in our center and everyone was complaining about working weekends. It was raised as a national concern so they made the 22.4. Position to work Saturday and Sunday and to help with excessive overtime. YOU do realize the IBT was trying to help. There is a lot to this language that could be talked about forever but the bottom line is that it works in some areas but not all. This is why I say to vote yes and you say to vote no. Supplements and riders are important to read to know the difference. YOU should respect our yes vote if it helps our members and we should respect your no vote to get better.
LagunaBrown
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Exactly then why are you guys being jerks and trying to force a vote no when we want to vote yes on something that is an upgrade for our members. The vote no sheep can’t accept any reasoning and only want a no across the board. EVEN When you admittingly said “'I’m not in the Southwest, so it doesn't apply to me or many others on here.”
22.4 jobs are a big down grade for our part time drivers here. They make too driving rate. So good for you and
them.
542thruNthru
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@LagunaBrown How do you feel about the new discipline for technology
Cover Drivers do not apply to them. It's not a upgrade for them it's a down grade.
If 22.4 was in only supplements you'd have a point but it's in the Master. So them wanting to vote No makes sense. They don't want lower paid drivers like we already have.
Cover Drivers do not apply to them. It's not a upgrade for them it's a down grade.
If 22.4 was in only supplements you'd have a point but it's in the Master. So them wanting to vote No makes sense. They don't want lower paid drivers like we already have.
DriveInDriveOut
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So people complained about working weekends, and the Union's solution was to accept weekend work and pay people less to do it....
That's "trying to help"?
LagunaBrown
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Did you not comprehend what I just said? The 22.4 is an IMPROVEMENT here. I even told you the language it improves.
DriveInDriveOut
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Did you not comprehend what I just said? The 22.4 is a CONCESSION everywhere.
Thanks
Obama
DriveInDriveOut
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LagunaBrown
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It’s not a concession everywhere if it is an improvement somewhere. You got check mated and that answer is weak. Here come the emojis, meme’s and name calling
Another typical me ster. I'm getting mine screw everyone else.
DriveInDriveOut
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LagunaBrown
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You can thank Ron Carey for that and everyone that unanimously voted yes on the 1997 contract. Woke!
DriveInDriveOut
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So you're voting for concessions because you're butthurt about 20 years ago?
Get a grip.
LagunaBrown
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Your diverting and after 20 years it’s an improvement not a concession for us.
DriveInDriveOut
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There's nothing to 'divert from'.
You are voting for another second class driver who will be paid less to do the same work, on days that no one wants to work.
You think your supplement will protect your local from the terrible language, so you are saying screw being United, screw brotherhood, screw everyone that's not in your local, and screw the guys that will come after you.
Your position is clear.
LagunaBrown
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That is an opinion. The reality is 22.4 language is an improvement to our section 38 SWPR language.
Sorry to tell you the truth. If you can NOT prove anything otherwise then this conversation is over.
DriveInDriveOut
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I think it's clear you are a "me"ster.
22.4 is a concession.
If you are okay with concessions, then vote yes.
LagunaBrown
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I totally agree. My point is some are are yes and some are no. I don’t need vote no sheep confusing our members just like they don’t need yes vote sheep confusing theirs. Decisions should be made of each areas language and respected! Like I said the vote no guys refuse to accept anything besides a no vote and that is lame.
LagunaBrown
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Your have made it abundantly clear your brain is to puny to comprehend our language.
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