Coronavirus

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
This is pure nonsense pov. The world you inhabit, the laws you follow, the education you receive, the why you drive, the seat belts in a car were decided in part by what some political said. You are constantly basing your view of the world based on the rules in the world that politicians helped construct. This doesn't mean one can't question, doubt, disagree, hate what some politician says. But come on the life we lead based on the laws of this nation were heavily influenced by what some political leader said or didn't say about the economy or taxes for example and those facts impact all our world views.

What does any of that have to do with what I said? Do I have to repeat it again? Put more spaces in between the words so you have more time to understand each one before you get to the next? If you are so easily influenced by what political leaders say or believe, then that explains a lot. Don't put that on me. You do you though.
 
Trump‘s doctors at Walter Reed just held a press conference. All of them wore masks. They only came off to stand alone and speak at podium. Obviously the anti-maskers should be shouting at Trumps doctors for using masks.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
People who misguidedly think they are helping us by deciding who gets to do what.
Politicians, governors, the general public who buy in to sacrificing freedom and snitch on neighbors.

When people with enough intelligence to see the patterns of an emerging cultural shift and call it out, those who don't quite have what it takes to connect the dots develop an inferiority complex and ridicule those people. They don't realize that conspiracies aren't necessary for things to change. But because they don't understand the mechanisms behind change, they assume you must mean that you think that millions of people are purposefully acting to make the changes.

It is not unreasonable to assume that mask mandates could go on for a long time, even after this pandemic is over. The same ridiculous and unscientific arguments for masking will still apply for the flu. Heck, we're on day, what? 200 of "15 days to flatten the curve". Some people in charge keep changing their reasons for extending emergency mandates. The response to corona is unprecedented, especially for a virus that is so harmless to such a vast majority of the population.

Doesn't take a genius to see that things aren't matching up, and when they point it out, they get yelled down by an unthinking mob. It's insane that people have to try to defend their desire for freedom.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
When people with enough intelligence to see the patterns of an emerging cultural shift and call it out, those who don't quite have what it takes to connect the dots develop an inferiority complex and ridicule those people. They don't realize that conspiracies aren't necessary for things to change. But because they don't understand the mechanisms behind change, they assume you must mean that you think that millions of people are purposefully acting to make the changes.

It is not unreasonable to assume that mask mandates could go on for a long time, even after this pandemic is over. The same ridiculous and unscientific arguments for masking will still apply for the flu. Heck, we're on day, what? 200 of "15 days to flatten the curve". Some people in charge keep changing their reasons for extending emergency mandates. The response to corona is unprecedented, especially for a virus that is so harmless to such a vast majority of the population.

Doesn't take a genius to see that things aren't matching up, and when they point it out, they get yelled down by an unthinking mob. It's insane that people have to try to defend their desire for freedom.
“Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone.” Ayn Rand
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
When people with enough intelligence to see the patterns of an emerging cultural shift and call it out, those who don't quite have what it takes to connect the dots develop an inferiority complex and ridicule those people. They don't realize that conspiracies aren't necessary for things to change. But because they don't understand the mechanisms behind change, they assume you must mean that you think that millions of people are purposefully acting to make the changes.

It is not unreasonable to assume that mask mandates could go on for a long time, even after this pandemic is over. The same ridiculous and unscientific arguments for masking will still apply for the flu. Heck, we're on day, what? 200 of "15 days to flatten the curve". Some people in charge keep changing their reasons for extending emergency mandates. The response to corona is unprecedented, especially for a virus that is so harmless to such a vast majority of the population.

Doesn't take a genius to see that things aren't matching up, and when they point it out, they get yelled down by an unthinking mob. It's insane that people have to try to defend their desire for freedom.
200,000 dead americans. #3 cause of death this year. thats makes it so far at least 5x more deadly than regular flu season.

you didnt flatten the curve. its well known many american states did not social distance, wear masks, etc. and if you did lockdown you opened prematurely and / or didnt lock down fast enough when new cases started.

freedom is not necessarily a good thing. im free to kill and lie and be an :censored2:. it goes against religion.

stores here have introduced more restrictions. im not sure why cases have begun to fall from all time highs because as far as i know the govt hasnt introduced anything.
 
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rickyb

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sweden trending up . i cant figure out what happened in july to make it drop aside from the fact that people there may be able to regulate themselves unlike other people.:

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zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
200,000 dead americans. #3 cause of death this year. thats makes it so far at least 5x more deadly than regular flu season.

you didnt flatten the curve. its well known many american states did not social distance, wear masks, etc. and if you did lockdown you opened prematurely and / or didnt lock down fast enough when new cases started.

freedom is not necessarily a good thing. im free to kill and lie and be an :censored2:. it goes against religion.

stores here have introduced more restrictions. im not sure why cases have begun to fall from all time highs because as far as i know the govt hasnt introduced anything.

You don't understand how the real world works. Like I said, it's real convenient to say that if numbers get better after a lock down/mask mandate, then it is because of the mandates, but if they don't it is because people aren't complying. You don't understand viruses or epidemics, but make proclamations about them as though you know everything. Your regurgitated views of what works and why have very little meaning.
 

rickyb

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You don't understand how the real world works. Like I said, it's real convenient to say that if numbers get better after a lock down/mask mandate, then it is because of the mandates, but if they don't it is because people aren't complying. You don't understand viruses or epidemics, but make proclamations about them as though you know everything. Your regurgitated views of what works and why have very little meaning.
you are hte only person with your view from a list of people i dont trust and people i already trusted prior to covid. were talking about cause and effect. you can look up why cases have just fallen again in australia, and whats behind vietnam and thailands success.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
you are hte only person with your view from a list of people i dont trust and people i already trusted prior to covid. were talking about cause and effect. you can look up why cases have just fallen again in australia, and whats behind vietnam and thailands success.

I don't care if you trust what's real or not. You don't understand cause and effect or you wouldn't be a communist. You can look up why people think things happen, doesn't mean they are right, especially when they ignore contradictory data.
 

rickyb

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I don't care if you trust what's real or not. You don't understand cause and effect or you wouldn't be a communist. You can look up why people think things happen, doesn't mean they are right, especially when they ignore contradictory data.
theres always going to be contradictory data and some of it is BS.

the whole point of telling people not to social distance was because it was bad for profits. the whole thing was about money. i agree the govt probably used the crisis to take away some rights just like it did with 9/11 when it didnt have to, and to bail out corporations for things unrelated to covid 19. also your theory goes against hte idea of staying home if you might be sick which is common place at work, aside from the fact it goes against the advice of all the govts which i dont trust and all the journalists and doctors which i do.

your problem is you dont use a reference system for your information. im very skeptical of anyone that wasnt referred to me from someone else, and i have more than enough information as it is from the guys ive already been referred to. you should be able to use a reference system and get a variety of opinions from within that system to reach your own conclusion, instead of just the latter. if youre already lost before you get your first few references then its gonna :censored2: up your whole system. i was pretty lucky i started out with michael moore (who does lie), rage against the machine, the matrix, cornel west, and ralph nader.

speaking of democracy i just saw a video from a GOP guy and hes anti democracy. so whats his solution to it LOL? more concentrated power??? the whole debate of whether to have govt involvement economically or not was the wrong debate. the problem is power and its always been power. look at episode III, the fundamental issue is power.
 

rickyb

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You don't understand how the real world works. Like I said, it's real convenient to say that if numbers get better after a lock down/mask mandate, then it is because of the mandates, but if they don't it is because people aren't complying. You don't understand viruses or epidemics, but make proclamations about them as though you know everything. Your regurgitated views of what works and why have very little meaning.
its pretty obvious america has a problem when it comes to science and profits. republicans pull the same :censored2: when it comes to global warming. every other country has signed onto the major climate resolution not america. america is so corrupt it couldnt even make the symbolic geusture. it is a rogue nation.
 

It will be fine

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Your problem is you only reference Russian stooges and Marxist morons. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I think a Marxist claiming capitalists want a fully open economy to earn more profit is more believable than crazy people claiming mask mandates are the work of Lizard People Illuminati for the purpose of mind control. That’s just me though.
 

rickyb

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Hey how about this graph?
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cases are important too because people survive but have long term problems.
heres america:
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why are swedens so much lower?

canada spiking recently. canada never completely flattened its curve unfortunately so corona was able to exponentially grow:
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new zealand is highly regarded:
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so was thailand. i was on vacation to thailand its very third world. you cant drink the tap water.:
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also well regarded:
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rickyb

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I think a Marxist claiming capitalists want a fully open economy to earn more profit is more believable than crazy people claiming mask mandates are the work of Lizard People Illuminati for the purpose of mind control. That’s just me though.
some of the guys i listen to are pro capitalist. alot of them believe in worker controlled jobs. box ox has some growing up to do i cant even talk to him
 
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