Coronavirus

[Box Ox]

But it would be like the pants being fishnet.

Are surgeons wearing fishnets on their faces when operating?

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Are surgeons wearing fishnets on their faces when operating?

Do you often walk around coughing into people's open wounds?

 

[NAHimGOOD]

I guarantee you we would find out how afraid people really are of covid if they start trying to force euthanizing dogs as a preventive measure like they did with minks. Or grocery delivery workers... though I suspect there would be less outrage over the latter.

Yeah well...

If we didn't shoot the people having the covid parties...

Not shooting my dogs.

But, there is a grocery delivery chick on my route who should definitely be protected.

 

[NAHimGOOD]

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Euthanize mr pee pants.

 

[tonyexpress]

Are surgeons wearing fishnets on their faces when operating?

Well, I sort of understand your logic but how about this?

"If masks don't work, then why do surgeons wear them?"​

First, let's be clear. The premise that surgeons wearing masks serves as evidence that "masks must work to prevent viral transmission" is a logical fallacy that I would classify as an argument of false equivalence, or comparing "apples to oranges."


Although surgeons do wear masks to prevent their respiratory droplets from contaminating the surgical field and the exposed internal tissues of our surgical patients, that is about as far as the analogy extends. Obviously, surgeons cannot "socially distance" from their surgical patients (unless we use robotic surgical devices, in which case, I would definitely not wear a mask).

 

[Wally]

I fully expected something like this to happen at some point in my life. I never in a million years thought that people would react in this way to something that killed under 1% and the risk to children is almost zero.

We have a whole generation that needs a safe space and therapy for a hangnail.

 

[Brownslave688]

I don’t understand the basic principals of why those in surgery wear masks.

fixed it for you

 

[El Correcto]

Well, I sort of understand your logic but how about this?

"If masks don't work, then why do surgeons wear them?"​

First, let's be clear. The premise that surgeons wearing masks serves as evidence that "masks must work to prevent viral transmission" is a logical fallacy that I would classify as an argument of false equivalence, or comparing "apples to oranges."


Although surgeons do wear masks to prevent their respiratory droplets from contaminating the surgical field and the exposed internal tissues of our surgical patients, that is about as far as the analogy extends. Obviously, surgeons cannot "socially distance" from their surgical patients (unless we use robotic surgical devices, in which case, I would definitely not wear a mask).

Why do you hate science?

 

[Jones]

From the CDC:
COVID-19 spreads mainly from person to person through respiratory droplets. Respiratory droplets travel into the air when you cough, sneeze, talk, shout, or sing. These droplets can then land in the mouths or noses of people who are near you or they may breathe these droplets in.
Masks are a simple barrier to help prevent your respiratory droplets from reaching others. Studies show that masks reduce the spray of droplets when worn over the nose and mouth.

COVID-19 ARCHIVED WEBPAGE

This historical page is not up to date. Find the latest on COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

From the Mayo Clinic:
Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus.

Can face masks protect against COVID-19?

Face masks can help slow the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Learn about mask types, which masks to use and how to use them.

www.mayoclinic.org

From Johns Hopkins:
Yes, face masks help prevent the spread of the coronavirus that causes COVID-19. If you are infected with the coronavirus and do not know it, a mask is very good at keeping your respiratory droplets and particles from infecting others. A mask can also be somewhat effective in preventing germs from getting into your nose and mouth that come from another person’s respiratory droplets.

Face Masks FAQs

The most recent recommendations related to prevention against the spread of COVID-19 include wearing cloth masks as an added measure of protection, particularly in areas of significant transmission.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Pretty much every major medical institution will tell you the same thing. But it's a free country, so you can certainly choose to ignore the experts and take the advice of some anonymous truck drivers on an internet forum.

 

[Brownslave688]

From the CDC:
COVID-19 spreads mainly from person to person through respiratory droplets. Respiratory droplets travel into the air when you cough, sneeze, talk, shout, or sing. These droplets can then land in the mouths or noses of people who are near you or they may breathe these droplets in.
Masks are a simple barrier to help prevent your respiratory droplets from reaching others. Studies show that masks reduce the spray of droplets when worn over the nose and mouth.

COVID-19 ARCHIVED WEBPAGE

This historical page is not up to date. Find the latest on COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

From the Mayo Clinic:
Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus.

Can face masks protect against COVID-19?

Face masks can help slow the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Learn about mask types, which masks to use and how to use them.

www.mayoclinic.org

From Johns Hopkins:
Yes, face masks help prevent the spread of the coronavirus that causes COVID-19. If you are infected with the coronavirus and do not know it, a mask is very good at keeping your respiratory droplets and particles from infecting others. A mask can also be somewhat effective in preventing germs from getting into your nose and mouth that come from another person’s respiratory droplets.

Face Masks FAQs

The most recent recommendations related to prevention against the spread of COVID-19 include wearing cloth masks as an added measure of protection, particularly in areas of significant transmission.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Pretty much every major medical institution will tell you the same thing. But it's a free country, so you can certainly choose to ignore the experts and take the advice of some anonymous truck drivers on an internet forum.

The evidence at this point actually strongly supports airborne spread over droplet spread. Which means most masks are going to to very very little to prevent spread.

 

[It will be fine]

From the CDC:
COVID-19 spreads mainly from person to person through respiratory droplets. Respiratory droplets travel into the air when you cough, sneeze, talk, shout, or sing. These droplets can then land in the mouths or noses of people who are near you or they may breathe these droplets in.
Masks are a simple barrier to help prevent your respiratory droplets from reaching others. Studies show that masks reduce the spray of droplets when worn over the nose and mouth.

COVID-19 ARCHIVED WEBPAGE

This historical page is not up to date. Find the latest on COVID-19.

www.cdc.gov

From the Mayo Clinic:
Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus.

Can face masks protect against COVID-19?

Face masks can help slow the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Learn about mask types, which masks to use and how to use them.

www.mayoclinic.org

From Johns Hopkins:
Yes, face masks help prevent the spread of the coronavirus that causes COVID-19. If you are infected with the coronavirus and do not know it, a mask is very good at keeping your respiratory droplets and particles from infecting others. A mask can also be somewhat effective in preventing germs from getting into your nose and mouth that come from another person’s respiratory droplets.

Face Masks FAQs

The most recent recommendations related to prevention against the spread of COVID-19 include wearing cloth masks as an added measure of protection, particularly in areas of significant transmission.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org

Pretty much every major medical institution will tell you the same thing. But it's a free country, so you can certainly choose to ignore the experts and take the advice of some anonymous truck drivers on an internet forum.

Hey, some of these truck driver took some undergrad courses, a few even have degrees. That’s basically the same thing as a medical degree and years of study in the field.

 

[Box Ox]

Well, I sort of understand your logic but how about this?

"If masks don't work, then why do surgeons wear them?"​

First, let's be clear. The premise that surgeons wearing masks serves as evidence that "masks must work to prevent viral transmission" is a logical fallacy that I would classify as an argument of false equivalence, or comparing "apples to oranges."


Although surgeons do wear masks to prevent their respiratory droplets from contaminating the surgical field and the exposed internal tissues of our surgical patients, that is about as far as the analogy extends. Obviously, surgeons cannot "socially distance" from their surgical patients (unless we use robotic surgical devices, in which case, I would definitely not wear a mask).

Do you not believe there's less of a chance that one of us inhales the other's respiratory droplets if we're both wearing surgical masks?

 

[Jones]

Hey, some of these truck driver took some undergrad courses, a few even have degrees. That’s basically the same thing as a medical degree and years of study in the field.

We should be thankful for their guidance in these uncertain times...

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Masks make stupid people feel better, more power to them.

 

[Brownslave688]

Do you not believe there's less of a chance that one of us inhales the other's respiratory droplets if we're both wearing surgical masks?

What about people that have already had it?

 

[Brownslave688]

Masks make stupid people feel better, more power to them.

Saw a couple out for a walk 10 minutes ago. Both with masks on. That’s just sheer stupidity.

 

[Box Ox]

What about people that have already had it?

Couldn't tell ya. Think even the vaccine studies only looked for recurring infections for up to a 2 month time period if I've heard correctly.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

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The great thing is, this is the strongest evidence that masks work. Often referred to as the pee-pee pants hypothesis, many people are quite relieved (pun intended) to discover their neighbor cannot, in fact, urinate on them while wearing pants. But, a more applicable analogy, known as the Flatus Theory, demonstrates the reality far more accurately.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Well, I sort of understand your logic but how about this?

"If masks don't work, then why do surgeons wear them?"​

First, let's be clear. The premise that surgeons wearing masks serves as evidence that "masks must work to prevent viral transmission" is a logical fallacy that I would classify as an argument of false equivalence, or comparing "apples to oranges."


Although surgeons do wear masks to prevent their respiratory droplets from contaminating the surgical field and the exposed internal tissues of our surgical patients, that is about as far as the analogy extends. Obviously, surgeons cannot "socially distance" from their surgical patients (unless we use robotic surgical devices, in which case, I would definitely not wear a mask).

The data that has been investigated suggest that post-operative infections are more likely following operations where the operation staff wore masks. But the headlines don't tell you that, so most people are unaware of the fact.

 

[Brownslave688]

Couldn't tell ya. Think even the vaccine studies only looked for recurring infections for up to a 2 month time period if I've heard correctly.

Vaccine is supposed to last for at least a year could be much longer.

The vaccine is also only injecting you with a small portion of the vaccine. Getting the full virus itself Will give you immunity for much longer.
Of course there will be a few outliers that do not get immunity from catching it. Hell the vaccine isn’t 100% either.