Covid Vaccinations

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
Old, fat, or otherwise vulnerable people should be taking ivermectin once or twice per week continually. By the time decent symptoms come around, the anti-viral competitive blocking of ivermectin is almost irrelevant. By the time most people get very sick, their viral load is already on the way down, and ivermectin won't help much.

Giving an anti-viral doesn't help much once the viral load has already peaked and is declining. COVID continues to hit after the virus is gone, and ivermectin won't do a thing for that.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
And no one NO ONE is being forced to be vaccinated. You can get another job where they don't require vaccinations. Private employers can set whatever requirements they want as long as race, creeds, and sex aren't used to discriminate.
Except your President is trying to force them to do, not what private employers want, but what the Executive Branch deems necessary by fiat.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
My brother has covid. Started taking ivermectin as soon as symptoms started. 4 days later after he started taking it, he was hospitalized as his condition got worse and worse. and his blood oxygen level dropped to 79%. It's back up to 84 three days after being hospitalized. His wife is a big antivaxxer, but was trying using ivermectin and zinc, and vitamin Cand D, and colloidal silver. None of them helped.. If he survives, he is almost guaranteed to not have worms though. Ivermectin has not clinically show to help. Some people get better without using it, and no large enough scale tests have shown ivermectin is effective against covid. Just because some people improve after taking it, doesn't mean anything. Almost everyone get better.
Cool story bro.

Obviously fake.
But....

Cool story bro.
 

fedx

Extra Large Package

Merck says their pill is half as effective as ivermectin! Great news!


That's wonderful. I mean why take a generic, off label drug like ivermectin for $5 when you can take a "new and improved" version of ivermectin that's made by Big Pharma for $100 a pill? A pill that's half as effective as ivermectin. Just shows you who's running this country. All you have to do is watch the commercials during the 5:30 news and you'll see Big Pharma has the msm bought and paid for.
 

fedx

Extra Large Package
Full FDA approval takes it out of 'experimental' stage by definition. And no one NO ONE is being forced to be vaccinated. You can get another job where they don't require vaccinations. Private employers can set whatever requirements they want as long as race, creeds, and sex aren't used to discriminate. And states likely will vary in how they rulle with states like Florida and Texas probably trying to prevent employers from hiring and firing who they want based on vaccination status. The seasonal flu kills under 40,000 per year on average, but covid has killed about 600,000 in the past year. That makes your math WAY off. Nearly 700,000 dead out of maybe 200 million infected is a death rate among those infected of 1 out of every 300 who dies., and that 200 million figure may be lower. And again, no one is FORCING you to be vaccinated. 1 out of every 300 infected is a death rate of 16 times your claim of 0.025% . 1 in 300 is 0.33%. 1 in 100 is 1%. And the cost of being sick and hospitalized even without the deaths is still costing the country billions of dollars unnecessarlity. Vaccinated people are less than 10% as likely to be hospitalized if they do get covid. So it is a societal cost, and as long as you want to work in society, you should not be allowed to raise costs on everyone else out of stubborness. Your math skills show that you may not actually have a full understanding of the issue. The odds of dying are at least 16 times higher than you apparently believed, even using conservative numbers. 700,000 dead is 1 in every 500 US citizens dead, including the whole population- not just those who have had the virus. 1 in 500 dead in the WHOLE population is 0.2%, and that is 10 times higher than the number you cite as dead just among the unvaccinated. Either you don't understand how percentages work, or you just made up your 99.98% figure, because the total number who have survived so far is only 99.8% Your numbers are just not even CLOSE to being right. Maybe if you have the right numbers in your mind, you will decide to get the vaccine. Not understanding math could possibly make it seem much safer to remain unvaccinated, especially if the number of those dying is really 16 times what you apparently believe.


Your logic is like saying in the 1870s "nobody is discriminating against blacks in the south, they can move to a state that gives them more freedom". A person who has worked at their job for years should not be required to look for a new job over a new policy (that was never in effect when they were hired) that says they need to put a mrna technology in their body. And your number of 600K dead from covid is waaaaaay overinflated. They counted people who died in car accidents as dying from covid. As I said earlier, covid has an overall 99.98% survivability. You want everyone to get the shot to get 99.99% survivability. That's not a good enough reason or improvement to warrant the intrusion. Now if covid had a 92% survivability and this vaccines brought it up to 99.99%, then it might be a different story, but that's not the case in this instance.
 

wilberforce15

Well-Known Member
That's wonderful. I mean why take a generic, off label drug like ivermectin for $5 when you can take a "new and improved" version of ivermectin that's made by Big Pharma for $100 a pill? A pill that's half as effective as ivermectin. Just shows you who's running this country. All you have to do is watch the commercials during the 5:30 news and you'll see Big Pharma has the msm bought and paid for.

IverMercktin

And Pfizermectin.

Because Ivermectin needs to cost more.
 

dmac1

Well-Known Member
I didn't say anything about prefer or not prefer. That was the previous maroon misreading what I said.

I'm saying they'll all have safe, easy to find jobs.
Not in some places. Going from an ER nurse to caring for your sick uncle with Medicaid paying you is not really comparable.
 

dmac1

Well-Known Member
Your logic is like saying in the 1870s "nobody is discriminating against blacks in the south, they can move to a state that gives them more freedom". A person who has worked at their job for years should not be required to look for a new job over a new policy (that was never in effect when they were hired) that says they need to put a mrna technology in their body. And your number of 600K dead from covid is waaaaaay overinflated. They counted people who died in car accidents as dying from covid. As I said earlier, covid has an overall 99.98% survivability. You want everyone to get the shot to get 99.99% survivability. That's not a good enough reason or improvement to warrant the intrusion. Now if covid had a 92% survivability and this vaccines brought it up to 99.99%, then it might be a different story, but that's not the case in this instance.
Your math skills still seem to need work. Even if half the covid deaths are not really from covid, your math is WAAAAAAAAAy off. I blame the schools you went to, not you.
 

dmac1

Well-Known Member
I didn't say anything about prefer or not prefer. That was the previous maroon misreading what I said.

I'm saying they'll all have safe, easy to find jobs.
You replied to the comment that said people would prefer vaccinated nurses with a denial. You were wrong. Only someone who likes the idea of having a greater chance of being infected would prefer an unvaccinated nurse under any real conditions.
 

dmac1

Well-Known Member
IverMercktin

And Pfizermectin.

Because Ivermectin needs to cost more.
As if any other big pharma produced drug is so much safer that the vaccine, and everyone knows what ivermectin is made from. Plus there are still no large scale double blind, placebo tested trials of ivermectin showing ANY effectiveness. Just because a trial of 50 people had no deaths means nothing. Give us a test with 500 random infected people who take a placebo vs 500 who take ivermectin, and that might indicate something if SIGNIFICANTLY fewer people die on ivermectin. Because only about 1 in 500 people who get covid die from it, it would really need a lot more than 500 in each group. So far, among those hospitalized from covid, ivermectin shows no statistically measurable increase in survival rates from those administered ivermectin. Just because your uncles friend's sisted survived and took ivermectin, it does NOT mean ivermectin had anything to do with it. She was likely, almost to a certainty, to just be one of the many who survice even after being hospitalized with covid.
 

dmac1

Well-Known Member
Old, fat, or otherwise vulnerable people should be taking ivermectin once or twice per week continually. By the time decent symptoms come around, the anti-viral competitive blocking of ivermectin is almost irrelevant. By the time most people get very sick, their viral load is already on the way down, and ivermectin won't help much.

Giving an anti-viral doesn't help much once the viral load has already peaked and is declining. COVID continues to hit after the virus is gone, and ivermectin won't do a thing for that.
wrong. They won't have worms, however.
 

dmac1

Well-Known Member
Except your President is trying to force them to do, not what private employers want, but what the Executive Branch deems necessary by fiat.
Lies. No force has been involved- unless some parent forced their child to be vaccinated. You do understand what 'force' means????
 
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