Covid Vaccinations

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dmac1

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UnionStrong said:
Just the NIH saying a 5 day regimen of Ivermectin can reduce the duration of a covid infection.
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Direct from the NIH website-----

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Despite this in vitro activity, no clinical trials have reported a clinical benefit for ivermectin in patients with these viruses. Some studies of ivermectin have also reported potential anti-inflammatory properties, which have been postulated to be beneficial in people with COVID-19.10-12

Some observational cohorts and clinical trials have evaluated the use of ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19. Data from some of these studies can be found in Table 2c.

Recommendation​

  • There is insufficient evidence for the COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel (the Panel) to recommend either for or against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19. Results from adequately powered, well-designed, and well-conducted clinical trials are needed to provide more specific, evidence-based guidance on the role of ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19."
www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov

Ivermectin | COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines

Review clinical data on the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19.
www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov
 
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wilberforce15

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dmac1 said:
As if any other big pharma produced drug is so much safer that the vaccine, and everyone knows what ivermectin is made from. Plus there are still no large scale double blind, placebo tested trials of ivermectin showing ANY effectiveness. Just because a trial of 50 people had no deaths means nothing. Give us a test with 500 random infected people who take a placebo vs 500 who take ivermectin, and that might indicate something if SIGNIFICANTLY fewer people die on ivermectin. Because only about 1 in 500 people who get covid die from it, it would really need a lot more than 500 in each group. So far, among those hospitalized from covid, ivermectin shows no statistically measurable increase in survival rates from those administered ivermectin. Just because your uncles friend's sisted survived and took ivermectin, it does NOT mean ivermectin had anything to do with it. She was likely, almost to a certainty, to just be one of the many who survice even after being hospitalized with covid.
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There have been no studies trying it. You and I both wish they did. Then we'd both have solid evidence to look at.

So why don't your beloved scientists do some science?
 
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wilberforce15

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dmac1 said:
You replied to the comment that said people would prefer vaccinated nurses with a denial. You were wrong. Only someone who likes the idea of having a greater chance of being infected would prefer an unvaccinated nurse under any real conditions.
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I never said anyone would prefer an unvaccinated nurse.
 
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Working4the1%

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Working4the1%

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AA airlines Mandates due to government contracts. Loss billions or fire the LEPERS
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wilberforce15

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Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
dmac1 said:
Full FDA approval takes it out of 'experimental' stage by definition. And no one NO ONE is being forced to be vaccinated. You can get another job where they don't require vaccinations. Private employers can set whatever requirements they want as long as race, creeds, and sex aren't used to discriminate. And states likely will vary in how they rulle with states like Florida and Texas probably trying to prevent employers from hiring and firing who they want based on vaccination status. The seasonal flu kills under 40,000 per year on average, but covid has killed about 600,000 in the past year. That makes your math WAY off. Nearly 700,000 dead out of maybe 200 million infected is a death rate among those infected of 1 out of every 300 who dies., and that 200 million figure may be lower. And again, no one is FORCING you to be vaccinated. 1 out of every 300 infected is a death rate of 16 times your claim of 0.025% . 1 in 300 is 0.33%. 1 in 100 is 1%. And the cost of being sick and hospitalized even without the deaths is still costing the country billions of dollars unnecessarlity. Vaccinated people are less than 10% as likely to be hospitalized if they do get covid. So it is a societal cost, and as long as you want to work in society, you should not be allowed to raise costs on everyone else out of stubborness. Your math skills show that you may not actually have a full understanding of the issue. The odds of dying are at least 16 times higher than you apparently believed, even using conservative numbers. 700,000 dead is 1 in every 500 US citizens dead, including the whole population- not just those who have had the virus. 1 in 500 dead in the WHOLE population is 0.2%, and that is 10 times higher than the number you cite as dead just among the unvaccinated. Either you don't understand how percentages work, or you just made up your 99.98% figure, because the total number who have survived so far is only 99.8% Your numbers are just not even CLOSE to being right. Maybe if you have the right numbers in your mind, you will decide to get the vaccine. Not understanding math could possibly make it seem much safer to remain unvaccinated, especially if the number of those dying is really 16 times what you apparently believe.
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Hipaa is a great thing. Do some research. If you believe what you just preached. You'll find out you can't be more wrong. Hipaa is to keep prying employers eyes out...
 

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