Dilemma Fedex Full Time or UPS Seasonal

bbsam · Oct 22, 2016

Cementups said:
Yes, it's still flat rate and still 1099'ed. He is being hired by a contractor, not Fedex. If he was payed by Fedex it would be taxed income. But Fedex Ground, you are hired as a sub-contractor and are responsible for paying your own taxes.

Then the contractor is violating his contract.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Oct 22, 2016

bbsam said:
Then the contractor is violating his contract.

Do they get any benefits at all? Health care or at least a matching 401k?, Vacation???

bbsam · Oct 22, 2016

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U said:
Do they get any benefits at all? Health care or at least a matching 401k?, Vacation???

generally speaking, no.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Oct 22, 2016

bbsam said:
generally speaking, no.

That's just wrong. Not blaming you bit it's just wrong

bbsam · Oct 22, 2016

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U said:
That's just wrong. Not blaming you bit it's just wrong

I don't disagree. Bernie Sanders has it right. X really isn't looking for a 30 year driver retiring to a decent pension. From a purely corporate and investor pov it makes perfect sense. For everyone else, well as long as they show up and do a somewhat adequate job...who the hell cares?

Brisket · Oct 22, 2016

bbsam said:
generally speaking, no.

Damn, sucks.

Re-Raise · Oct 22, 2016

bbsam said:
generally speaking, no.

That is crazy. I bet 8 weeks of vacation, paid holidays, free family insurance and pension contributions of over $500 a week would equal way more than 37k a year. All of that before the $34+ an hour and $51+ for overtime.

I'll still bitch when I get to work Monday though...

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Oct 22, 2016

bbsam said:
I don't disagree. Bernie Sanders has it right. X really isn't looking for a 30 year driver retiring to a decent pension. From a purely corporate and investor pov it makes perfect sense. For everyone else, well as long as they show up and do a somewhat adequate job...who the hell cares?

Well, if the Democrats get the $15 an hour minimum wage, that will screw over FedEx ground.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Oct 22, 2016

Re-Raise said:
That is crazy. I bet 8 weeks of vacation, paid holidays, free family insurance and pension contributions of over $500 a week would equal way more than 37k a year. All of that before the $34+ an hour and $51+ for overtime.

I'll still bitch when I get to work Monday though...

Me too lol

bbsam · Oct 22, 2016

Re-Raise said:
That is crazy. I bet 8 weeks of vacation, paid holidays, free family insurance and pension contributions of over $500 a week would equal way more than 37k a year. All of that before the $34+ an hour and $51+ for overtime.

I'll still bitch when I get to work Monday though...

Correct. And along comes X and gets it done at $12 to $14 per hour.

Business ethics? I'm not sure there is such a thing as long as the bottom line is the focus.

misloaderoftheyear · Oct 22, 2016

scratch said:
What city are you in if you care to say? Some areas are starting to have a hard time finding qualified drivers to promote from our part-time ranks. There will probably be a lot of retirements at the beginning of the year with the pension increase. The five-ten year waits to go full-time in my area are over with in my opinion.

REDWA is getting that way. I went to my centers driving school last week(Integrad is closed for the season in my area). My instructor said that the Redwa was doing off the street hiring, because not enough people want the FT.

bbsam · Oct 22, 2016

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U said:
Well, if the Democrats get the $15 an hour minimum wage, that will screw over FedEx ground.

No. X will simply adjust their compensation somewhat upwards. It's not like they don't have the margins to pay more, they just don't have/want to.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Oct 22, 2016

bbsam said:
No. X will simply adjust their compensation somewhat upwards. It's not like they don't have the margins to pay more, they just don't have/want to.

Don't forget about Obama care...FedEx is skating around that one

bbsam · Oct 22, 2016

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U said:
Don't forget about Obama care...FedEx is skating around that one

Yep. Because contractors like me with fewer than 50 employees are exempt. Pads the bottom line.

Brown_Star · Oct 22, 2016

nextlife said:
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen,

I applied for Both Fedex and UPS. Yesterday UPS called and offered me a seasonal package delivery job and I accepted it and am supposed to drive and get my DOT on Wednesday. Today Fedex just called and offered me a full time package delivery driver job. I told the nice man at Fedex that I was interested and told him my situation. I decided that I would meet with him for an interview this Monday but made no affirmation that I would take the job. I am heavily conflicted - what should I do? I would much rather work for UPS if I was full time, but seasonal I am not sure. Am I going to get any work driving for UPS after mid January? What are the odds getting full time? How much work do seasonal drivers generally get throughout the year.

If anyone could offer me any advice I would be very thankful.

cheers
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What you should do is this ....

Become a ups seasonal and criticize the the route driver to ors on how lazy he is.Maybe just maybe you'll end up in management.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Oct 22, 2016

bbsam said:
Yep. Because contractors like me with fewer than 50 employees are exempt. Pads the bottom line.

Exactly

Nike · Oct 22, 2016

These topics pop up a lot and the responses are just terrible. You should go UPS first off. Once your in the driver seat start kissing butt. Seriously you want them to keep you after the holidays give them a reason to. Bring breakfast tacos for your supervisors, and finish strong every day, work off the clock if need be. If your just a pedestrian driver or just barely finishing every day you won't make it. Once your on permanently then start doing the union stuff to save your body.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Oct 22, 2016

Cementups said:
Or $90k at UPS if they were to keep you on after the holidays.

Just started my 28th year and I have yet to break $80K.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Oct 22, 2016

Nike said:
These topics pop up a lot and the responses are just terrible. You should go UPS first off. Once your in the driver seat start kissing butt. Seriously you want them to keep you after the holidays give them a reason to. Bring breakfast tacos for your supervisors, and finish strong every day, work off the clock if need be. If your just a pedestrian driver or just barely finishing every day you won't make it. Once your on permanently then start doing the union stuff to save your body.

That doesn't help

But thanks for nothing

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Oct 22, 2016

scratch said:
What city are you in if you care to say? Some areas are starting to have a hard time finding qualified drivers to promote from our part-time ranks. There will probably be a lot of retirements at the beginning of the year with the pension increase. The five-ten year waits to go full-time in my area are over with in my opinion.

Qualified and motivated PTers.

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