Fallout from the new contract?

[BigUnionGuy]

It comes down to marketable skills. Management people who have those in-demand skills aren't scared.

Like posting on the internet ?

 

[anonymous23456]

Like posting on the internet ?

You have no idea...

 

[Arizax2]

It comes down to marketable skills. Management people who have those in-demand skills aren't scared.

Which is why it's important for folks to use the benfits that UPS offers with edcor and get a free degree. Nothing thing is garenteed. Especially with automation which is ramping up. Less workers means less management folks.

 

[anonymous23456]

Which is why it's important for folks to use the benfits that UPS offers with edcor and get a free degree. Nothing thing is garenteed. Especially with automation which is ramping up. Less workers means less management folks.

UPS tuition reimbursement is a joke! Management people need to spend their own money investing in themselves.

 

[anonymous23456]

Which is why it's important for folks to use the benfits that UPS offers with edcor and get a free degree. Nothing thing is garenteed. Especially with automation which is ramping up. Less workers means less management folks.

Management folks who design the automation and fix the automation always have a job until the robots can fix themselves.

 

[YourMissingCallTag]

But yet we have to pick up all their call tags...

And get all their returns from the Amazon Fresh stores. I feel like a strike at UPS will throw a nice monkey wrench into their operations.

 

[Arizax2]

UPS tuition reimbursement is a joke! Management people need to spend their own money investing in themselves.

I agree it sucks to upfront the costs but with TESU and CTU being 100% free when everything is said and done is still a blessing.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

And get all their returns from the Amazon Fresh stores. I feel like a strike at UPS will throw a nice monkey wrench into their operations.

Hopefully they can figure it out

 

[dudebro]

If people remember what happened after the "97" strike, that was the first round of management buyouts

or forced retirement. If the company makes us walk.... it's going to be a blood bath.


Mark my words.

The first round of management buyouts was actually 1995. After the 1997 work stoppage, we went straight into the dot.com boom and hired management like crazy, because we hadn't focused on production through the "quality / win-win" era of the mid 90s and the company wanted to get back to production focus.

That said, I hope there's an agreement between UPS and the Teamsters by the end of the month because I don't think there's an economic boom waiting on the other side of 2023.

 

[dudebro]

One of the saddest things I've seen were management people that didn't give up.

They bought into the dream and were rewarded with threats and intimidation the rest of their career.

Literally.... had a few of them talk with me in confidence on their options and my advice.

You have a great point here - the mgmt people who put everything they have into the job and don't diversify their skills become 100% dependent on the company and very slowly wind up in a bad position.

You don't ever want all of your eggs in one basket.

 

[burrheadd]

UPS tuition reimbursement is a joke! Management people need to spend their own money investing in themselves.

LOL that’s to bad

 

[BigUnionGuy]

The first round of management buyouts was actually 1995.

Don't remember it being that early.

 

[anonymous23456]

In the mean time, Amazon bought 5K Rivian EV.

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

In the mean time, Amazon bought 5K Rivian EV.

Neat

 

[toonertoo]

Don't remember it being that early.

I think it was right after the 97 strike?

 

[textat3]

Management will be become the new pt ups workforce, probably even the center manager will be broke up into 2 part time jobs, dispatch, pm dispatch. Would Save so much money.

 

[Karma...]

when is Sean going to unionize the clerks and pt supervisors ?

 

[dudebro]

I think it was right after the 97 strike?

I remember it being 1995 - the same year UPS opened UPS stock purchases to all employees for the first time. I was 7 years in, All the drivers in my center (Newark NJ at the time) had big eating grins and took pleasure in loudly addressing me with, "Good Morning, Partner!" all through dispatch that day. I remember the packet would have been completely illegal today because it was targeted to every management person reaching age 50 as of May 31 1995. Today that's age discrimination. There were some guys who were really upset because they missed the cutoff by a couple of days.

 

[pkgdriver]

I remember it being 1995 - the same year UPS opened UPS stock purchases to all employees for the first time. I was 7 years in, All the drivers in my center (Newark NJ at the time) had big eating grins and took pleasure in loudly addressing me with, "Good Morning, Partner!" all through dispatch that day. I remember the packet would have been completely illegal today because it was targeted to every management person reaching age 50 as of May 31 1995. Today that's age discrimination. There were some guys who were really upset because they missed the cutoff by a couple of days.

Thats about the time I remember. An Account Executive and a LP took the offer in my center.

 

[Coldworld]

I remember it being 1995 - the same year UPS opened UPS stock purchases to all employees for the first time. I was 7 years in, All the drivers in my center (Newark NJ at the time) had big eating grins and took pleasure in loudly addressing me with, "Good Morning, Partner!" all through dispatch that day. I remember the packet would have been completely illegal today because it was targeted to every management person reaching age 50 as of May 31 1995. Today that's age discrimination. There were some guys who were really upset because they missed the cutoff by a couple of days.

I was part time in 97’ and remember some of the full time mgt were so pissed that the union workforce were given the opportunity to purchase stock…