Fired for bringing back unscanned packages

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Happens a lot here. Well not up to your 14 but I've been out past 13 hours at least a dozen times this year already.

Maybe they just don't like you.

 

[BigBrownTruck420]

This is very confusing. Do you really know what you were fired for or are you just assuming it was the missed scans?

What verbal exchange did you have with the acting center manager when you returned to the building? Was he , did he act as though this was the first he'd heard of the misloads?

Yes, he said I was being fired for bringing back unscanned packages.. . When I got back to the building I went right upstairs and asked him what I should do with the packages. Yes he did act as if it was the first time he had heard of the misloads.. He had to check 3 different computers before he finally found the messages...

 

[BigBrownTruck420]

How were you fired for missed scans? They weren't in your board to begin with if they were misloads.

You sent a misload message to the center .. And you recorded them when you returned to the building as missed... what the hell else are you supposed to do???

I don't know... I even told my supervisor when I was on road.

 

[BigBrownTruck420]

And most importantly did anyone else witness this?

Yes, One of the shop stewards was in the room when I told the manager. The manager gave me his board to scan them as missed instead of using mine for some reason, even though I was still punched in..

 

[BigBrownTruck420]

If you remember the addresses for the missed pgs your BA can requisition all the "units of work" for those stops that day and even if it's in another board itll give you the tracking #s so you can print out the tracking info to see if the center manager deleted or changed their final disposition from missed to futures or whatever.

Your post alludes to the (2) packages the supe took to the school were included in the missed pkgs. Is that correct?

No they were not part of the missed pieces. The 2 packages for the school were on my route but they need them by a certain time.

 

[BigBrownTruck420]

Not disagreeing. I just think there is more to this story

There is nothing else to the story man.

 

[Orion inc.]

There is nothing else to the story man.

Well than your steward sucks and lacks balls because no FT driver would get walked out and fired right away for this. A good steward would have argued that the packages were scanned and no dishonesty actually occurred except on management part.

 

[Orion inc.]

Yes, he said I was being fired for bringing back unscanned packages.. . When I got back to the building I went right upstairs and asked him what I should do with the packages. Yes he did act as if it was the first time he had heard of the misloads.. He had to check 3 different computers before he finally found the messages...

Yes, One of the shop stewards was in the room when I told the manager. The manager gave me his board to scan them as missed instead of using mine for some reason, even though I was still punched in..

Your steward sucks then. These two statements contradict themselves

 

[CanGuy]

Here we messege our misloads in. They usually answer and say deliver if it's a resi on your way back if not sheet as missed after 17:00. The odd time I don't get a response from them I sheet as missed with misload in the remarks and my supervisor said that's okay too

 

[Brownslave688]

You only work three days a week....

Because everytime I work 13 hours they magically offer me the next day off.

 

[10 point]

No they were not part of the missed pieces. The 2 packages for the school were on my route but they need them by a certain time.

Did the supe scan them with his own diad? If not, who signed for them and were you instructed to give the supe the 2 pkgs by him or other management and was this all under "working as directed"?

 

[10 point]

Yes, he said I was being fired for bringing back unscanned packages.. . When I got back to the building I went right upstairs and asked him what I should do with the packages. Yes he did act as if it was the first time he had heard of the misloads.. He had to check 3 different computers before he finally found the messages...

The CMs toast. What an idiot.
You had not punched out and we're asking for clarification.

 

[Brownslave688]

Did the supe scan them with his own diad? If not, who signed for them and were you instructed to give the supe the 2 pkgs by him or other management and was this all under "working as directed"?

I wondered this too. I bet the driver scanned them and signed for it then the sup delivered them.


WAD or not that's a no no.

 

[BigBrownTruck420]

They were recorded as missed..please re-read the post.
If it took you 14 hours to deliver a route (you even said you have been on it a couple of times) you need to be walked out...save everyone the trouble.

and the termination will not stick....work on becoming a better driver.

your supervisor was right...there were a lot of messed up centers out there yesterday...it's become the norm.[/QUO

Did the supe scan them with his own diad? If not, who signed for them and were you instructed to give the supe the 2 pkgs by him or other management and was this all under "working as directed"?

All I know is I gave them to him and a little while later they came out of my board

 

[BigBrownTruck420]

I wondered this too. I bet the driver scanned them and signed for it then the sup delivered them.


WAD or not that's a no no.

I would never feel comfortable doing that

 

[Brownslave688]

I would never feel comfortable doing that

Good.


I know you're new. We all do shady stuff when we are new because we think it's ok because management said its ok.

 

[10 point]

All I know is I gave them to him and a little while later they came out of my board

This whole thing is messed up from one end to the other.

 

[10 point]

Him getting back pay for a wrong pay rate isn't a center issue.
It's an HR issue and he just got what was owed to him.

I really think this guy boned the center with a 14 hour day and the center manager wrongfully terminated him for whatever he could think of.

HR or not the cost had to be laid at the feet of somebody and I'm sure that the center took the hit because that's where his domicile is.

 

[HEFFERNAN]

HR or not the cost had to be laid at the feet of somebody and I'm sure that the center took the hit because that's where his domicile is.

????????
Back pay for a wrong pay rate isn't the same as a center being charged for a Tier 3.
It is a contractual agreement through the Teamsters.
HR controls the pay rate schedule on the computer, your center manager and DM could care less.
A center doesn't get charged anything when an employee's pay goes through progression.
The only thing they can control is how many routes are in so that they can keep their health and welfare payments to the union down.

 

[10 point]

????????
Back pay for a wrong pay rate isn't the same as a center being charged for a Tier 3.
It is a contractual agreement through the Teamsters.
HR controls the pay rate schedule on the computer, your center manager and DM could care less.
A center doesn't get charged anything when an employee's pay goes through progression.
The only thing they can control is how many routes are in so that they can keep their health and welfare payments to the union down.

They (mgmnt) fight this issue here like the plague.
If it doesn't affect their bottom line why would they fight it tooth and nail?