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[oldngray]

How can an officer determine a description based on someone passing by in a car? Can't tell how tall someone is, body type the color of eyes or any other distinguishable trait.

training?

 

[MAKAVELI]

training?

Is that what you call profiling?

 

[oldngray]

Is that what you call profiling?

No.

 

[MAKAVELI]

No.

That's exactly what it is. He was black and had dreads. Boom he's a suspect!

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Even if he WAS a concealed carry permit holder what difference does it make? That was not why he was shot.

Why do you think he was shot?

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

This should induce plenty of foaming mouthed rage among the liberals.

 

[oldngray]

Why do you think he was shot?

Because he disobeyed the officers instructions and reached for something unknown when told not to.

He could have ended up like the Missouri cop who may not survive.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

This should induce plenty of foaming mouthed rage among the liberals.

Spent the first two minutes talking about himself, yawn.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Because he disobeyed the officers instructions and reached for something unknown when told not to.

How do you know?
The person in the car with him says he was asked to show ID and registration, what did the cop expect, a magic trick? Where do you keep your ID?

 

[bbsam]

and yet crazy people can get guns...

i think they already have them.

 

[MAKAVELI]

How do you know?
The person in the car with him says he was asked to show ID and registration, what did the cop expect, a magic trick? Where do you keep your ID?

Really if there was no broken tail light or any other driving violation, this was an illegal search and seizure. This cop not only took an innocent mans life but also will lose his job and created a major liability for the city.

 

[oldngray]

How do you know?
The person in the car with him says he was asked to show ID and registration, what did the cop expect, a magic trick? Where do you keep your ID?

How do you know the person in the car is telling an accurate story? Her story and her actions don't seem to add up. The statement the cop made tells a different story. The truth may be somewhere in between but very possibly different from what she claims happened.

As usual people need to be patient and wait for facts instead of jumping to conclusions.

Most of the other recent cases ended up different than the initial reports.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Really if there was no broken tail light or any other driving violation, this was an illegal search and seizure. This cop not only took an innocent mans life but also will lose his job and created a major liability for the city.

Broken tail light is besides the point, and there wasn't any search or seizure as far as I know.

Bottom line is the cop probably just profiled the guy and then made a stupid mistake. Won't be the last time.

 

[oldngray]

Really if there was no broken tail light or any other driving violation, this was an illegal search and seizure. This cop not only took an innocent mans life but also will lose his job and created a major liability for the city.

Wrong. A tail light is enough reason to be stopped regardless of whether he was a suspect in a crime.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

How do you know the person in the car is telling an accurate story? Her story and her actions don't seem to add up. The statement the cop made tells a different story. The truth may be somewhere in between but very possibly different from what she claims happened.

As usual people need to be patient and wait for facts instead of jumping to conclusions.

Most of the other recent cases ended up different than the initial reports.

I don't know, that's why I was asking how you know, because you stated it as a fact right here:

Because he disobeyed the officers instructions and reached for something unknown when told not to.

So I'd say maybe you should take your own advice.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Wrong. A tail light is enough reason to be stopped regardless of whether he was a suspect in a crime.

I said if there wasn't.

 

[oldngray]

I don't know, that's why I was asking how you know, because you stated it as a fact right here:

So I'd say maybe you should take your own advice.

You were the one stating the other passenger's account as facts.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

You were the one stating the other passenger's account as facts.

When? Quote me.

 

[oldngray]

When? Quote me.

My bad. It was someone else.

 

[bottomups]

I'll talk about it.

Right after the Federal government allows for a national concealed carry permit for law abiding citizens.

You see, I am more worried about not being able to protect myself and my family from criminals, than I am from the mentally ill.

I believe the crime stats will back me up on that.

Thought all you conservatives were for smaller government and states rights. Does this only apply when it is convenient for you?