zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Turn by turn only helps people who don't already know the route. But I could see UPS using it to discipline drivers for not following the exact route as laid out by Orion. Even more reason to follow it and make more money.
Heard new DIAD upgrade coming RDO will be gone
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el blanco
Guest
in cab distraction
PASinterference
Yes, I know I'm working late.
Follow it so YourTripAintCut.
Nike
Well-Known Member
I like the strategy that has worked the past 100 years. Pay your employees well to be smart and adaptable, combine with proven and trusted technology. Why do anything else? Invest in the person, not some snakeoil technology.
You know how many drivers I see invest in their own maps, flashlights and various other devices for their jobs. Pay your employees well and they’ll figure it out on their own.
You know how many drivers I see invest in their own maps, flashlights and various other devices for their jobs. Pay your employees well and they’ll figure it out on their own.
dudebro
Well-Known Member
Your assumption is that with good pay, all employees will want to do the right thing. My experience is, this is not the case.
Johney
Pineapple King
How do you figure that?
Heavy Package
Well-Known Member
I imagine it still uses ORION.
Sometimes this place makes it so nobody cares, including management
Johney
Pineapple King
Ok I thought you were going by the picture.
margaritaville
Well-Known Member
Orion wants me to run across 4 lanes of traffic instead of park within 10 feet of the door on my route. 
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Thank God...
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
We cant get the packages delivered even when everyone shows up for work.
We have also had 3 on-car sups quit in the last 6 months, and one of them has yet to be replaced because they cant find anyone dumb enough to take the position.
Plus the economy has picked up and there are plenty of jobs out there.
So the idea that they would have the ability to hire, let alone train, enough people to replace us is laughable. I seriously doubt that UPS would even be able to supply them with uniforms.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
What you say is true, but you are operating on the false assumption that UPS will do what makes sense.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
I will run the route the way that makes sense.
Right now if I followed ORION I would run out of fuel at midnight with pickups and businesses left to do.
dudebro
Well-Known Member
I don't always agree with how things are managed either. Most of the issues I read on here about ORION are really PDS issues. And then, even the PDS may not be at fault. If the PDS has to manage the preload AND do the PDS job in some cases, his or her choice is to either spend time fixing the dispatch and work 15 hours, or work 10, pull the same day the week before as a typical day, and hit commit and hope that's close enough.
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
Cool story bro
But if you know there’s a problem and I know there’s a problem
Why not fix it instead of kicking the can down the road
brownmonster
Man of Great Wisdom
Orion optimizes right up to the minute the minute the driver is dispatched...........and the driver leaves 35 minutes after that.What snakeoil are you talking about? With Orion, it's smooth sailing all the way!
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
The 9.5 opt-in list is the "great equalizer".
It took less than 3 months and $1,300 in penalty pay for management to instruct me to turn ORION off in 2014.
Haven't looked at it since, but am all in and willing to run it into the ground again.
No GPS based algorithm is capable of considering all the variables necessary to successfully complete my route.
