Yes, he certainly has any choice he wants he’s the president and that’s what he said he would do. It’s not a threat thought that’s what we wanted I’m willing to do it doesn’t bother me. I’m 100% on board if it’s a No vote.
I hope I’m wrong, really I do. But if this contract is voted down, all bets are off. You have no idea how it will end.
It will end with us getting a contract of some kind maybe it will be better maybe not I can’t answer that but if people really do not like this contract and vote, no I am prepared to do whatever is necessary.
We both know it's not coming to that anyway, this will fly through, but walking us out on thr 23rd with a no vote would at the very least be challenged as a ULP detrimental to the operation without allowing the company an opportunity to improve the deal. Any judge or the president would have us back to work the next day. A tentative agreement rather than a LBFO changes everything.
Then you understand the difference between voting on TA vs a LBFO, and why the immediate consequences are very different.
Sure, I wouldn't dispute that. It's a different story altogether when the President of the IBT beats his chest to the world as the union announces and endorses a tentative agreement.
I again, I’m not even disputing what you’re saying about that, but it is what he said, and people should know exactly what a No vote may or may not mean. He may have painted himself into this corner.
Not arguing at all, healthy dialog is a good thing.
Lots of respect for you brother. I totally agree about bouncing the ideas and dealings off each other. It’s interesting times, but I will back my brothers and sisters whatever the choice is.
Ding ding ding.
So exactly what contract are you working under right now? Just curious..Wrong. The handshake is void. O’Brien himself had said you will not work without a contract. Good faith!
The old one that has expired, that can be nullified anytime after a secret ballot. If you read the constitution, you would understand.
By legal documents, what contract are you currently under?
The old one by extension while we vote by secret ballot. Strike authorization has already been given. What happens if there’s a No vote it is totally up to the executive board and the president.
I’m a free agent
No you are not. If something happened and we're taken to court. Ups would just say the contract expires on July 31, 2023. Hands wiped
We are not under a new contract because we did not sign it we're working under a temporary extension
