Local 25 Teamsters borderline criminal act?

[SoCalUPS]

I don't know for sure, but, based on what I've read, there was an agreement between the local and the seasonal workers that the amount would be $32/week. Regardless of what the money is for, the workers earned the money, the union failed to keep their part of the agreement by taking too much at once.

I agree, the Local ending the 32 dollars a week because the Company had failed to deduct and send over too many times for many seasonals

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Anyone get laid off?

I agree, the Local ending the 32 dollars a week because the Company had failed to deduct and send over too many times for many seasonals

Haven't heard yet. The information I've seen is that these were mostly seasonal workers. I could be wrong on that. If they are not seasonal, and will continue to work, then it's not nearly as big a deal to me. But, again, if the union and the workers had an agreement on an installment plan, then the union should honor it. UPS's failure to honor their agreement with the union should have no impact on that. Besides, if UPS couldn't send $32 per week, why could they send hundreds all at once?

 

[wide load]

Yes, the Union was aware. So they threatened to take all of it and did

Stop paying your taxes or cell phone bill and what happens?

 

[1989]

How about the union not charge an initiation fee until one becomes a permanent hire?

 

[Boston25]

Anyone get laid off?

None of the inside employees are laid off

 

[1989]

Stop paying your taxes or cell phone bill and what happens?

The irs and my cell phone provider will notify me.

 

[Boston25]

How about the union not charge an initiation fee until one becomes a permanent hire?

I agree with that.

 

[wide load]

Haven't heard yet. The information I've seen is that these were mostly seasonal workers. I could be wrong on that. If they are not seasonal, and will continue to work, then it's not nearly as big a deal to me. But, again, if the union and the workers had an agreement on an installment plan, then the union should honor it. UPS's failure to honor their agreement with the union should have no impact on that. Besides, if UPS couldn't send $32 per week, why could they send hundreds all at once?

I totally get it and you seem like a rational person. My only question is if the employee was working for weeks without paying a dime and said nothing. Isn’t it the same?

 

[wide load]

None of the inside employees are laid off

So what is the real complaint? The sum? The fee?

 

[1989]

So what is the real complaint? The sum? The fee?

The issue is one or more peak hires got most or all of their check deducted. Where are you lost?

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I totally get it and you seem like a rational person. My only question is if the employee was working for weeks without paying a dime and said nothing. Isn’t it the same?

I put less responsibility on the employee, especially a newb. But I agree. If they were weeks behind, they should catch up. If that is what actually happened, then I have no real issue, except maybe timing. But they were taking entire checks until the whole intiation fee was paid.

 

[bowhnterdon]

Why take dues from seasonal employees at all? If they are kept on,then start taking dues. Don’t give me it is a Union shop,pay your dues crap. $11 an hour? C,mon...

 

[PT Car Washer]

I put less responsibility on the employee, especially a newb. But I agree. If they were weeks behind, they should catch up. If that is what actually happened, then I have no real issue, except maybe timing. But they were taking entire checks until the whole intiation fee was paid.

Or the Union wanted to get all of its money before the seasonals were laid off.

 

[wide load]

Why take dues from seasonal employees at all? If they are kept on,then start taking dues. Don’t give me it is a Union shop,pay your dues crap. $11 an hour? C,mon...

Were they told of the initiation?

 

[wide load]

The irs and my cell phone provider will notify me.

Like when you fill out the application?

 

[wide load]

The issue is one or more peak hires got most or all of their check deducted. Where are you lost?

Yeah I got that part. So friend the union right? Dummy. Onus is on them right?
Did they owe? Did they pay?

 

[rod]

Everyone knows when hired what the initial fee is. There is some information that is lost in these news articles.
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I would disagree with you on that.

 

[Boston25]

So what is the real complaint? The sum? The fee?

The issue was having all of it taken at once. No one complained about paying it just how it was done.

 

[Boston25]

I put less responsibility on the employee, especially a newb. But I agree. If they were weeks behind, they should catch up. If that is what actually happened, then I have no real issue, except maybe timing. But they were taking entire checks until the whole intiation fee was paid.

A lot of people were weeks, months and some cases a year to 2 years behind.

 

[1989]

Like when you fill out the application?

What??? When I fall behind with the irs, cell phone provider, union dues they all send a reminder notice.