Mitt Romney
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Romney begs Obama to stop talking about him, people don't like Romney when they find out more about him.
Romney Asks Obama To Stop Attacking His Business And Taxes | TPM2012
Romney Asks Obama To Stop Attacking His Business And Taxes | TPM2012
It's not a lock yet, but if he does go with Ryan I don't think it's a bad choice at all.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I think Ryan brings a sense of legitimacy to the ticket although I would have preferred Christie.
Obama's problem is that beyond letting some of the Bush tax cuts expire he really doesn't have a comprehensive plan, or at least he hasn't spelled it out yet. One of the side benefits to Romney picking Ryan is that it will hopefully force Obama to put an actual plan out there to compete with Ryan's.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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...or perhaps take those parts of Ryan's plan which make sense and incorporate those in to his second term agenda...
I think he has an outline that can't be fleshed out because it includes more stimulous spending which sends many into unthinking howling rage. The woefully inept comparisons to Greece start flying and people tune out before they tune into what is really being said. Debt is a long term problem that still would essentially fix itself if all of the tax cuts were allowed to expire.
In a twist of fate though, you may be correct in that the selection of Ryan could move the election to a more substantive debate that would allow the electorate to become more thoughtful on the fiscal issues facing the country.
Of course in only a matter of years those parts of Ryan's plan would be routinely derided as the "socialist extreme policies that are ruining the country".
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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You don't think the oft-handed comparison of California to Greece was in the least bit an accurate one?
No I do not. But I would be willing to look at a sincere and serious break down of the economies of both and weigh both the similarities and the differences. I think that would not bode well for people trying to throw singular statistics in order to derive broad conclusions, but I am willing to be shown I am wrong.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I am afraid that I don't have what it takes on this subject to show you were you may be wrong.
BTW, do you like my new avatar? Indecision suggested it and I liked it enough to use it.
BTW, do you like my new avatar? Indecision suggested it and I liked it enough to use it.
That sounds an awful lot like "I've got a plan but I can't tell you about it cuz you won't like it". If he has a plan that he believes in then he should be promoting it, not hiding from it. He's the president and he has the bully pulpit, if he allows his adversaries to define him it's his own fault.
I agree on letting them all expire, not just for the wealthy.
In my book a substantive debate about competing policies and visions is infinitely more interesting than a negative campaign. In addtion it gives the winner a much clearer mandate to act as he can legitimately claim that people voted for his policies whereas after a negative campaign all he can really say is that they voted against the other guy.
I am not wrong because no matter what the numbers say California is not Greece and the United States is not Europe. Besides, Governor Jerry Brown is not pulling punches in handling the debt crisis there. That's not something democrats have been trusted to do in the past.
I do like your avatar. I would edit it slightly and say, "It's all about the me." Not sure it's a big difference. I think it's more of an inside joke for me. Or should I say "the" me.
"I've got a plan but I can't tell you about it 'cuz you won't like it." Hmmmm. Yeah, that about says it...except. People have always underestimated Obama especially in timing. Late summer of election year, stakes at the highest, Obama's economic future vision vs. Ryan's...already Romney's getting overshadowed. Perfect time for Obama to use the bully pulpit not only for passing his agenda but getting re-elected.
moreluck
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I like Christie, but the cartoonists would not be merciful. His size is all the ammo the other side needs. PC or not, that's the way it is.
moreluck
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Hilarious MSM Spin: Paul Ryan Doesn’t Have Enough “Private-Sector Experience” To Be President…
They do realize Obama hasn’t spent a single day in the private sector, right?
Via Newsbusters:
They do realize Obama hasn’t spent a single day in the private sector, right?
Via Newsbusters:
The Drudge Report singled out political writer Ryan Lizza of The New Yorker as having the unintentionally hilarious first spin on the reported pick of Paul Ryan to be Romney’s running mate. Lizza immediately started to “tally the risks.”
“For one thing, Ryan has no significant private-sector experience,” he wrote. He wrote this with zero ackowledgment of Obama’s private-sector experience scooping mint-chip at Baskin-Robbins. If the rest of the media follows this line, this is going to be shamelessly biased.
“For one thing, Ryan has no significant private-sector experience,” he wrote. He wrote this with zero ackowledgment of Obama’s private-sector experience scooping mint-chip at Baskin-Robbins. If the rest of the media follows this line, this is going to be shamelessly biased.
