Most Helpers are a bunch of crybabies...

oldngray

nowhere special
I always let a helper finish the day no matter how bad. I might not keep them any longer than I had to or for sure would refuse to work with them the next day though.
 

Marne Vet

Well-Known Member
I've tried to do that old, but there were a few times that I had to get them off of the package car immediately. One girl wouldn't lift anything she thought was heavy, which was almost everything. Fired her on the spot and told her to walk home. She's still the single biggest turd I ever had. Worked less than two hours, and from the very start was bitching about the cold, how heavy everything was, being told to move faster, and on and on. There was NO way I was letting her stay all 6-7 hours like that.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
I've tried to do that old, but there were a few times that I had to get them off of the package car immediately. One girl wouldn't lift anything she thought was heavy, which was almost everything. Fired her on the spot and told her to walk home. She's still the single biggest turd I ever had. Worked less than two hours, and from the very start was bitching about the cold, how heavy everything was, being told to move faster, and on and on. There was NO way I was letting her stay all 6-7 hours like that.

I had one of those---she refused to lift anything over 20lbs. Thank goodness I only had her on the Mondays that we started early as they wouldn't let me use my regular helper, who was also a preloader.
 

yamahogmamma

PRELOADER-
I worked this season in Rhode Island as a helper, I only worked with 3 drivers, they were good at there jobs, which isn't an easy one by far. I only lightened their day a bit. I did hustle and listen to them. I hot on the car and shut my mouth until I was asked a question, than I answered it. I wasn't there to make a life long friend or try to get the driver to put a good word in with the supervisor to get me a part time job at the building. Most if not all veterans had to work for 3 to 5 years part time before they got a full time route. I had fun and worked the job as it was any other job I have had. I expected nothing from the drivers I worked with. I didn't give a crap about how many packages they had nor the stops we had to make. They got paid by the hour and I was in the jump seat as an assistant to them. Together my drivers And I were completing 35 to 40 stops an hour. Last night I got with my driver Joel at 12 noon and we had 225 stops we finished at 6pm. Job done. So anyone that sits in the captains seat is just that the Captain I am just a greenhorn deck hand, and I was greatful for the chance to help the drivers I worked with. To all the people wearing brown I bow to you and say keep going strong. Your work is not unnoticed and is appreciated by the people who matter the person receiving that card board box with their child's medicine inside even though your loader placed it on the wrong shelf and you have to drive 10 miles back the other way to deliver it at night. Thank you
I know I was in Warwick too as a helper.. inside and it was "nuts" but fun we had a good time.. I want to go back :(
 

twoweeled

Well-Known Member
I'm sure there's a helper reading this that thinks he's the greatest helper that ever worked for Brown. Let me assure you that you're not. You're a seasonal Pack Mule. That's it. You take packages from point A to point B. Most of the time we have to hold your hand and almost walk you to the doors because you never seem to be able to figure out which green door with the yellow frame that I'm pointing to, which also happens to be the only green door with a yellow frame on the entire street. I know, shocking isn't it.

Every year you studs get on our package cars and act all hardcore for the first few days. Maybe even a week, but then the crying starts. First you cry about being sore. Then how much work we have, or how long you have to work. Then you want to know when you're getting paid, and we've only delivered two stops on the first Monday. Relax Captain Express. Lets finish the first day before we start investing your check on Wall Street. OK? Next you show-up always wearing something you were explicitly told not to, like some bright colored undershirt as if it's your other job to stand next to an open manhole cover. I guess Grandma won't fall in the hole as long as you're standing there in your triple bright neon orange t-shirt, but we honestly could care less about that. Most of us don't care if you show-up wearing just a sock on your junk as long as you're on time every day. We also appreciate it when you keep the bitching to a minimum, and you don't show-up smelling like hot balls. Your job is to show up when we tell you, do as you're instructed, be able to lift whatever I lift, and hustle. Stay off your phone, and don't walk to a stop like you're on Death Row. There should NEVER be an excuse for a driver to knock-off 2-3 stops to every one of yours. If that's the case you're too damn slow. Pick it up or beat it. I don't mind firing helpers and taking my chances with the next pick of the draw.

Next, your personal affairs do not interest me. I don't care if Honey Boo-Boo is home sick, and you need to leave early to get her chicken friend'ing soup. I don't care if every Tuesday you have get the hair on your :censored2: trimmed, or you can't find an friend'ing babysitter. Grow up kids. You want a job, then learn how to make it work. Get your :censored2: in order BEFORE you come to work, and leave the Excuse Manual at home. None of us buy it. We've heard it all before. We know why you had to call out on that coincidentally rainy day. You're a labia, we get it. Oh, it's Friday and at 3 PM you suddenly have cramps? Sure. Everyone loves to get done early on Friday, so how about you just finish the job so we can both go home at a decent hour? You know, it suddenly dawned on me that a few of you might be offended by this. Right now you're engaging your CAPS LOCK, and getting ready to "tell me how it is". Right. Cut the :censored2:. Those of you that run to [our] place on the web to bitch and moan about your drivers are the biggest labia majoras I know. We don't give a :censored2: if you think it's unfair that the stops aren't delivered equally. We're the quarterbacks, and this is our team. When you get your chance to earn my seat you can call the shots. Until that time stuff it, do what you're told, or find a nice job more suitable for you like McDonald's. Supersize the Hell out my meal when I take my lunch, and say "Here ya go sir!" because you haven't earned the right to debate your position. Don't like it? Don't do it. If you're too wet behind the ears to have adult conversations with your driver(s) about the very :censored2: you come here to bitch about, then this job isn't for you. I'm sick of reading whinny posts from helpers that can't figure out their job is to run off stops. That's it Box Warriors. It's not rocket science!

I had a helper quit today on one of the busiest days ever because he wanted to go Christmas shopping. Yup, 3 hours in to our busy day this butt jockey tried to make-up some lame excuse that even Stevie Wonder could see through, and decided he just had to leave. Let me say that again, he left to go shopping, and now he doesn't have a job. Genius right? Already broke as balls he figured he just had to get to the Mall and spend money he doesn't have, and left me stuck, which is nothing new. Been doing this for two decades. I've seen these guys come and go. I can count on half of one hand how many were solid helpers. Every Peak we deal with these clowns. I tipped the Hell out of this guy every week. Even had $50 in a card for him today, but now it's just extra beer money. Glad he saved me $50, and because he left when he did I can thank him for the 3 hours of bonus I'll make just off the number of stops I had. Thanks dummy. /rant over

I've always viewed package as "boot camp". If you can do package, you can do anything. If you think back to when you first started, package is not for everyone. That is one tough Freakin job!! And yeah, I realize the helper is only doing part of the job, but look at what they are paying him, with nothing more than empty promises.
No, I'm tying to make excuses - I'm just saying, that is one tough job that isn't for everyone! you guys more than earn your dollar!!
 

tiredofhelping

Well-Known Member
He'd probably cry if I snapped back into Drill Sergeant mode. Aw, you're legs are too sore to work? Throw a tampon on it and lets go. Aw, you didn't know you might have to work in the rain? Hold the same tampon over your head and buy the extra absorbent ones. I'm sick and tired of crybabies, or people that signup for a job knowing full well they have to work outside, and carry packages, only to cry all day. Like I said, McDonald's is hiring or become a Preloader.

You confirmed what I suspected for awhile. Former DS....Respect level elevated. Lol. My DS's from basic were some of the most influential and definitely THE most squared away men I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. <handshake>
 

oldngray

nowhere special
It ain't easy to become a DS (or DI). You gotta be all squared away. But every one of them I knew were great guys. Even going through Basic it doesn't take long to figure out the mind games and predict when they will high stress you but once you get beyond that you can see them as what they really are and really respect them.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

Well-Known Member
I was Air Force so the DI's were not as in your face as those in the Army and Marines but they tended to play more mind games with us.

I often wondered if they were able to leave it on base or if they carried that same demeanor and mindset when they got home.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
I was Air Force so the DI's were not as in your face as those in the Army and Marines but they tended to play more mind games with us.

I often wondered if they were able to leave it on base or if they carried that same demeanor and mindset when they got home.
Or when they come on social networking web sites?
 

dqs95124

Well-Known Member
Being clueless, and being a crybaby are not synonymous. I didn't know what I was doing when I started at UPS, but I kept my mouth shut and asked a lot of questions. I didn't bitch in front of my boss or co-workers for the simple fact that I didn't want them to categorize me as a "baby". Maybe I had an edge coming out of the Army, because hard work didn't bother me too much.

What some of you have missed here is that this thread ONLY covers the turds I've seen, and the worthless hires that have wasted my time. I can start a thread dedicated to all the great helpers I had, but that would be very boring. This is just to vent on the labias we've all been stuck with over the decades. :)
Stop
 

Marne Vet

Well-Known Member
Idiot. The "labia" reference is to call them a pusillanimous without the websites filters censoring it. You can be a Male, or Female "pusillanimous" if you cry about work. It's not a gender thing so stfu.
 

dqs95124

Well-Known Member
Why do call them pusillanimous, how about no balls? no idiot here. I know where yr coming from. no b$$$ j$$ on New Year's? Period coming?
 

bleedinbrown58

That’s Craptacular
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Marne Vet has a point.....lol
 

whb

New Member
Have enjoyed reading this thread. 1st year driver helper, Southern California area. I knew what I was getting into before I applied. Knew it wasn't going to be a piece of cake. Knew that the driver was the boss of the truck. I was moved from driver to driver to fill in for helpers who couldn't make it in that day during my first week because they just didn't show, had an appt, etc. After that, I was set with one driver whose helper decided working at the hub and drivers helper was too much for her. Never had a problem with any driver. They actually were pretty cool having me on the truck. Always at the meeting spot before the specified time. I kept the small talk to a minimum but did ask some questions about the driver's responsibilities so I would understand more of what they had to do and figure out how to assist them better. Did what they asked. Kept cell in pocket and used it during lunch or break only or checked it when I knew the coordinator was going to call me. Yes, I was sore the first few days but having been in sports for a better part of my life, I expected it. Didn't complain. In orientation, I had a whole 30 sec look at a diad. On the truck, the drivers preferred to just let me deliver the packages. Usually back at the truck before the driver finished getting the next stop sorted out. I used the diad to obtain signatures and that was it. Training on the job wasn't an option with these guys even though I did ask about using it. Average loads were 200-300 packages. They would do the business stops before I arrived and then we would knock out the residentials and a few last minute pick ups. And as far as thoughts of ever being an actual driver? I had always thought it would be a piece of cake just going out and delivering packages until I got on that truck. It is, by far, not an easy job. I delivered for the County for 3 years in the 80s and expected it to be like that, easy. It's not even close!

My coordinator said the drivers have had nothing but good things to say about me and asked if I was interested in working in Preload and work towards a permanant position. I started preload about 3 weeks after I had started driver helper. But, I was also given the choice of continuing drivers helper, which I have. Been working preload early morning(anywhere from 1-3am) until about 9am, then out on the truck at about 12/1 pm until 5/6pm or so. Christmas Eve day I told my wife don't expect me until late. We finished at 8 pm. It's been tough going but worth the experience and exercise. Most of those working preload range in age from 18 to 30 something, which I have been able to keep up with at my age. Working preload also helped out my driver because after I started loading the trucks, I knew how to organize the packages and we would stop and reorganize the shelves properly to make the job quicker and easier...

I'm not tooting my horn or thinking I am God's gift to driver's helper. Far from it. It's a simple fact to follow directions of your supervisor/boss/driver and I was just glad to get back into the work force, be it only temporary or possibly permanant, after having been out of it for several years. I am a Radiologic Technologist, xray tech for short. After seeing one too many kids come in on a backboard because the driver was drunk and the kid wasn't belted in and went through the windshield, etc, I took a long hiatus from the job and became a stay home dad for my kids. Now that one is in college and the other is a junior in high school, I decided to get back into the work force. Xray tech jobs are rare right now with the field overpopulated so I was looking around and found the seasonal driver's helper position. Just something for some extra cash for Christmas. Have enjoyed both positions and the people I have worked with so far. And getting a permanant part time position as a preloader is a plus.

oh, and btw, I am 54, somewhat overweight, and was definitely out of shape. Definitely not your average age and build of a UPS employee. Working these 2 positions over the past 2 months has helped with both my weight and being out of shape.
 
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