G.V. Rush
All Encompassing Member
70 hour weeks will mostly definitely be a thing this peak.12 hours a day keeps the Saturdays away !!!
No more PVDs?
- Thread starter Brownslave688
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Rack em
Made the Podium
Not for my local
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Our stewards told our center manager no PVD. He’s like what am I supposed to do?
stewie: get more rentals I guess
center manager: I can’t
stewie: you got a problem then.
TSB
Yeah, I'm a road hog
"What would these PVD's drive"? The answer is starring you in the face, it's the PV part of PVD.
TSB
Yeah, I'm a road hog
Yeah, I hear it now, "They aren't Package Car drivers in the definition of the term so the ruling does not apply to them. The counter argument will be made that a certified RPCD cannot be forced to use their own vehicle but a PVD, by nature of the job description and lack of an RPCD status can use their own vehicle.
I have been lurking
Tired hubrat
TheBrownNote
Good thing I wore my brown pants
This warms the cockles of my heart.
I want a smooth operation as well as anyone, but i hate all center managers regardless of how much of a stand up guy you are. I dont care if you donate blood to orphan children in the soup kitchen you run on the weekends, while also taking a yearly trip to random places to build habitats for poor families and help drill wells. I HATE you if your a UPS center manager.
The idea of a center manager or higher not being able to get rentals or any other of a myriad of problems, truly brings be joy. This company deserves all the friend#%* $@!T theyre gonna get because of the absolute abuse we have suffered under crappy CMs. The harm theyve done to their centers by making the poorest of choices.
Look, just because you have a business degree from Southern New Hamphire State University, and graduated with a 3.9, does not make you a manager of people... hell an elementary ed degree makes you more qualified.
Managment is the enemy, treat them a such
Overpaid Union Thug
Well-Known Member
I was glad to see the arbitration decision but my first concern is if there is anything that says UPS can’t hire PVDs and also provide them a vehicle?
I’m not talking about uhauls or Ryder trucks, I’m talking they go down to Hertz, Enterprise, Budget, etc and rent every Van and SUV they can find? As ridiculous and frankly grimy as that would be for the company to do I wouldn’t put it past then. Seems it would solve the DOT physical requirement while providing a vehicle for them.
I go back and forth on the PVDs, it was nice to hand them the most time consuming sections of my route and any misloads too, but I also fully understand why it was not in the best interest of teamsters too. This will be my first peak as a feeder driver so I don’t really have any skin in the PVD game anymore, but we’re fighting our own battles with the contractors and I can draw the parallels between the PVDs and the scabs pulling our trailers.
I’m not talking about uhauls or Ryder trucks, I’m talking they go down to Hertz, Enterprise, Budget, etc and rent every Van and SUV they can find? As ridiculous and frankly grimy as that would be for the company to do I wouldn’t put it past then. Seems it would solve the DOT physical requirement while providing a vehicle for them.
I go back and forth on the PVDs, it was nice to hand them the most time consuming sections of my route and any misloads too, but I also fully understand why it was not in the best interest of teamsters too. This will be my first peak as a feeder driver so I don’t really have any skin in the PVD game anymore, but we’re fighting our own battles with the contractors and I can draw the parallels between the PVDs and the scabs pulling our trailers.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
We are already sending sups to places that are buried in work and can’t find workers lol it’s September
MECH-lift
Union Brother ✊🧔 RPCD
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
some guy just walked out while I’m typing this
Let us face it the work is crappy...
Nobody in their right mind wants to work here, far too many job opportunities out there that will not destroy your bodies or ruin your mental health and pays better or the same.
Even if the company is willing to pay over 30 bucks an hour, it would still have a retention issue.
Meanwhile back at the farm the current members will have to endure a 55 + .. 6 day workweek...
It is a matter of time before a burn out...
BrownSnowFlake
Well-Known Member
I wish. Last peak they gave me a helper who moved like he was underwater. Around 1400 he did a faceplant in a customer's driveway. I thought he was having a heart attack. I had to pretend I cared. Hardest thing I've ever done in this job.
BrownSnowFlake
Well-Known Member
I want to tell you that these are just regular guys doing a necessary job. But the first time I signed a bid I was DQ'd by my center manager for not scratching in my first 15 days. This same guy later got moved to another building bc he was having relations with one of the drivers (I'm sure his wife was thrilled). Then we started Saturday ground and I magically qualified working at the same pace. It's like they raise or lower the standards to meet their needs.
I think the promotion system is designed to select abusive sociopathic narcissists. One of our district level guys got moved from our building after he had a physical altercation with one of our drivers 10 years ago. So much for the Zero Tolerance Workplace Violence policy.
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Always been a double standard... back in the time if you were not a back stabbing, cheating womanizing A -Hole you never advanced.
There was a good reason that most of the good supervisors and managers who had a soul left with the buy outs.
Well-Known Member
Back From Break
Looks like it depends on the Supplement.
I did not read the Arbitrators decision, but it seems to be from Local 804. Their Supplement does not seem to specify that Probationary/Seasonal Employees are not bound by the Supplement. So maybe that's why the Arbitrator ruled the way he did.
Here is the language from the Central
Article 1 Section 1
Seasonal and probationary employees will not receive any of the benefits of this Agreement other than wages spelled out in this Agreement.
So, would the arbitrators decision apply to the Central. Seasonal/Probationary employees do not get the protection of the CBA. They do not get the protection of not being forced to drive their own cars.
This could get very interesting how it may be interpreted across Supplements and Regions. Hold on to your seats...
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
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PT Car Washer
Well-Known Member
That is a real stretch of logic.
PASinterference
Yes, I know I'm working late.
It's been 20 years since I've had a center manager that I would piss on if they were on fire.
