Anonymous 10
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I can't complain. We have a good team in place. They are all long in the tooth. I ask for things to get done and they get it done. It's a beautiful thing to have business agents to learn from and show you the way. I'm blessed
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Bubblehead
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Keep spinning things as you do; but for anybody who has followed or is willing to backtrack through this thread, they will be able to see that you brought up the proposal meeting to paint me as an "after the fact concerned Teamster".
You're obviously enjoying knowing who I am, and with that, you know I am far from an "after the fact concerned Teamster".
If I am "lucky enough", or if I earn my way into a position within my local, I will absolutely do my best to "read the tea leaves" and advise the members who entrust me with the duty of looking after their interests.
Do I have a lot to learn?
You bet!!!
There will always be a lot to learn.
The man who thinks he knows it all is a liability.
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Anonymous 10
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This thread has really taken off. It's a good thread. Do you think the boys in local 20 will vote this time?? I really hope they man up and vote. I know bill wants these guys to get out and vote yes. Do you think it will happen??
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chuchu
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I don't think any of the BAs want another no vote. I hope they learn to quit calling the no voters TDU. That hacks a lot of people off. Making it personal generates more no votes. Can't they figure that out yet? Man, some of these BAs need to learn to just talk and reason with people. That works a lot better than calling names and getting hot with people who don't agree. It hasn't worked yet anyway obviously.
InsideUPS
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Don't waste your time trying to explain Bubblehead. Anyone that routinely reads BC knows your position on UPS, our union, and the current state of the Ohio Rider. The fact that you happened to go on vacation during the proposal meeting was inconsequential to me and should be to all others. As you mentioned, it is only common sense that we expected there would be no concessions in the contract when UPS was making a 4+ billion dollar profit. Your reputation is well known here and I for one respect the comments you post on BC whether I agree with them or not.
Your dealing with an individual that is compensated not by UPS... but our hard earned dollars and that of other hard working Teamsters. There are "no wires crossed" here. Deflection, deception, and distortion of the truth are techniques used by elected officials (politicians, etc.) everywhere to further their position in life. Isn't it ironic that you have to try and explain yourself to a guy that is compensated in part by our hard earned dollars?. Remember....he is SUPPOSED to be working for us...we are not working for him. Your efforts in keeping our union officials held accountable are admirable......
So...with that said...this thread is about the Ohio Rider and a topic which is relevant in part to my contract and the future of all Ohio UPSers. I hope the Ohio Conference of Teamsters soon releases some information to the Ohio locals about what the status of the Ohio Rider is. Too many "Teamster Blackouts" during this contract. Why in today's modern day methods of communication are we left in the dark about so many important issues?
Is anyone home at : Executive Board
InsideUPS
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InsideUPS
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I agree anonymous......it is time for the Ohio Conference to put some plan in place so that we can ratify the Ohio Rider. All of these delays in my opinion are from poor planning and lack of communication.... (at least from the perspective from many members of our local). Silence gives the "appearance" of weak and ineffective leadership. ....
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chuchu
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Silence just breeds more distrust and displays contempt. There is another proposal (from many members that voted No) coming up for presentation soon that will be very simple and straight forward. It's a "best and final" offer hoping to end this stalemate with the union leadership.
If it is rejected we're going to sign Bubblehead's petition. It's time for open discussion...not lectures.
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Stonefish
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If he is being compensated by UPS or dues really shouldn't matter, should it? I've said it before and I guess I'll say it again, we are all entitled to our opinions if we agree or disagree. Just because BUG questions Bubble makes him a union official and a bad person. Sounds hypocritical to me but that's just me.
Stonefish
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I think that is the opinion of everyone.
Anonymous 10
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Yea lets pass this
and start enforcing the new language. All my guys want to get on that 9.5 list.
BigUnionGuy
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Anonymous 10
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Vote yes
Stonefish
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Yes
Anonymous 10
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I've got a whole legion waiting to vote yes again. Watch
Stonefish
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I hope I'm going to try down here
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Bubblehead
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I will always be willing to listen as long as you leave my ass out of it.
Exit only.
There's no "Indecision" here.
snookbunny420
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no no no
BigUnionGuy
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If I didn't think you could take a little razzing.... it wouldn't be any fun here.
I mean.... after all.... you work for UPS. You should be used to it.
Serving in any elected position with your Local, you have to have thick skin.
I had a signature line here.... And it's a credo that has served me well.
"You might not like what I say.... but, I always tell the truth."
Everyone is not going to be your friend.
Any elected official is delusional.... if they think otherwise.
But, the whole key is.... even when, the people that don't like you.... trust you. With their job.
-Bug-
BigUnionGuy
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Just for clarification purposes....
Local 100, does not have a Rider. It's a Local seniority practice.
And trust me.... you don't want to ever.... open that up.
-Bug-
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