What'dyabringmetoday???
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Did you show up an hour prior to start time to "help out"?
OMS's WHO CHOOSE OR NOT CHOOSE UNION- ON TOPIC PLEASE
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burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
What'dyabringmetoday???
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That's a yes. I'm sure management loved you!!!
P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564
Work now, Grieve later.
Full time dispatchers are going to be replaced by AI at my building. Are they the ones that tried to organize?
catstalking
ie qt
OMS/PTPCS/PT dispatchers are sups, they give instructions to drivers and in some small buildings basically run 90% of the show
there WERE specialists leftover from pre-2012 that basically did admin work to support the centers, sometimes more the OMS side, sometimes more the dispatch side, etc
most of the specialists were attritioned out but in some places they persisted, I imagine those are the people that could possibly unionize since they don't technically supervise anyone
there WERE specialists leftover from pre-2012 that basically did admin work to support the centers, sometimes more the OMS side, sometimes more the dispatch side, etc
most of the specialists were attritioned out but in some places they persisted, I imagine those are the people that could possibly unionize since they don't technically supervise anyone
ManInBrown
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We have two feeder specialists. One morning start one late afternoon. Morning specialist handles all CPU’s. Night specialist handles all loads to other buildings.
Thebrownblob
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Did they join?
ManInBrown
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Through second hand I was told yes
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Very familiar with this topic...The Teamster's leadership over the years did not give a damn about organizing any new inside (Clerical) positions, simply not worth the effort. During the years 1973 through 1997 the Company had free rein with only hiring entry level part timers over creating any new full time permanent jobs. In the Central and Southern every part time hour is covered under the Company Pension Plan and it still pays peanuts for those service years, the 1997 strike was all about UPS's attempt to take over all of the Union run pension plans. Many fine examples of how they would abuse their employees if they had total control (the recent elimination of their own partners is a good one). Meanwhile the Teamsters where under investigations for corruption and mob influences (Hoffa and kin), deregulation in the 80's eliminated any additional funding in the Central States Pension Fund, Carey actually tried to negotiate the part timers into the Teamsters' monetary contribution trusts back in 1993, the Company would never allow that. Hoffa came in after Carey was ousted and he was a tool for the Company, they knew he would never call a strike on his watch, his true character came out when the Company bailed out of the Central in 2007 and showed up again with the his last two (let them eat cake) Contracts.
Meanwhile back on the farm, the Company increased their non union inside positions taking work from our members claiming that every OMS and Administrative Specialist (Clerical) where management. I do not the know inside workings during the Hoffa years, but it appears they let that slide and concentrated on their base (full time driving) and never considered organizing those Clerical or Inside employees. In my area that work was ALL Union, before my time but the Clerical workforce in my building organized back in the early 70's, and all they had to do is sign a Union Card...The current Non Union (Clerical) employee are too scared to organize, they have seen what happens if you become to (uppity), they do not trust the Union Leadership to protect them. The current push now from some of them to join the Union was the elimination of their pension accruement...they never got MIP, most of them are part time and have no real power or authority to do anything. Some areas are better at trying to get these employees organized, but their apparent no language to do it nationally. With O'Brien in it appears that the Company is now eliminating those non union inside positions before the 2028 Contract as a added incentive to prevent any further attempt to organize those folks...They are scared and I don't blame them...
MyTripisCut
Never bought my own handtruck
Then they don’t have much of a choice. Most of these PT specialists are hoping to get promoted to Full Time but either lack the necessary skills and will never be or actually are in line to move up. With automated hubs popping up all over the nation I’d say that being scared is correct. Not joining the Teamsters is a lose-lose proposition.
Thebrownblob
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Yep, they’ll either join or they won’t have a job very soon. I can promise that. They’re going to get a raise and great insurance on top of it.
Ol time...meh
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Attached is the legal definition of a supervisor.
542thruNthru
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You sure that's still the definition? It's from 2006. Also it's from a law firm website. Notice the disclaimer at the bottom.
"The material contained herein is not to be construed as legal advice or opinion."
Also this looks like it's coming from an anti union law firm.
P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564
Work now, Grieve later.
Legal definition of a supervisor =
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UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Can you please post something we could care less about?Legal definition of a supervisor =
P£INinY0uR***UnionGuy8564
Work now, Grieve later.
I can try
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