Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
As evidenced by your actions!
On the verge of reporting my hub to the Department of Labor.
- Thread starter takesteady
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takesteady
Well-Known Member
Another big issue is that they stagger start times in random 10-15 minute intervals. 15 people might have a 0505 start time and 3 other guys might start at 0515. I’ve never seen anything like it lol.
takesteady
Well-Known Member
I’m actually vigilant about my time and check UPSers everyday to make certain that it’s accurate, but even I’m off a couple hours every week and have to get it corrected. It’s like a weekly ritual and it shouldn’t have to be that way. Every time my sup acts like it’s an honest oopsie. I can’t even imagine how much they skim off less aware workers and rookies. It’s a scam on a magnitude that far exceeds the cost of the odd iPhone that get snatched by an opportunistic loader. Yet they always get promptly arrested on a felony charge. UPS is a 100+ year old billion dollar corporation that touts itself as a logistics company . Why can’t they figure out a basic time clock system so that people can get paid for the time they work??!
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MenInBrown
Guest
I’ve already reported to corporate for stealing time and falsifying records.
takesteady
Well-Known Member
Good on you brother
. Again, I believe the people who intentionally steal time should be brought up on charges. Not get a stern talking to, moved to another building or even fired. They should face justice like any other thief would.
Integrity
Binge Poster
What did your Steward say when you brought this issue up?
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
You don’t think “corporate” whatever that is doesent know what’s going on?
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MenInBrown
Guest
It’s a legal process. You can’t sue UPS if they aren’t notified of problem and given a chance to correct it.
11.19igrad
Well-Known Member
so a class action for people safely in a building getting time knocked off but none for drivers or people potentially rolled over because the trucks will turn off even if the gearshift isn't engaged?
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
You just can’t let it go can you
Lmao
AKCoverMan
Well-Known Member
Of course there are going to be dishonest management folks who see a little timecard editing as the easy button way to make the numbers their corporate masters are demanding of them. There is both a financial incentive of bonuses based on hitting certain numerical targets combined with the avoiding the negative consequences of being called out for missing said targets. So there is both “carrot and stick” approach to motivating manager to cook the books.
Coupled with that is the complexity of our payroll system that seems to make it incredibly easy to screw up an employee’s timecard and paycheck even when no intent to do so exists...and incredibly difficult to pin down and correct errors once they happen, The fact that so many problems can happen without dishonest intent makes it easy for the dishonest to hide their dirty deeds.
I’ve put many manhours into dealing with payroll issues mostly for part time members who are driver qualified and can be worked when we are out of full time drivers.. they make their normal PT rate when they work their regular PT job but if they drive they get paid driver rate for all hours worked that day even if they did their PT work already. They system will screw this up and pay hours coded as “sort and load” or “break” or basically any other work code at the wrong rate. Then the fun begins.. our management team has to request an adjustment which half the time payroll in Texas will do wrong or deny altogether. It’s mind numbing number crunching and you have to watch every detail or it’ll get more out of wack.
I know our ORS spends time every week doing multiple adjustments for this. It’s all very manual and detailed and all over small amounts of money that add up. It’s an incredible waste of time and effort, but I don’t think it’s dishonesty... it’s just a very stupid system that could be fixed. We spend tons of time on back end cleaning up the mess, if we could only get someone on the front end to make the system work correctly the first time!!
OK, rant off! Lol
Coupled with that is the complexity of our payroll system that seems to make it incredibly easy to screw up an employee’s timecard and paycheck even when no intent to do so exists...and incredibly difficult to pin down and correct errors once they happen, The fact that so many problems can happen without dishonest intent makes it easy for the dishonest to hide their dirty deeds.
I’ve put many manhours into dealing with payroll issues mostly for part time members who are driver qualified and can be worked when we are out of full time drivers.. they make their normal PT rate when they work their regular PT job but if they drive they get paid driver rate for all hours worked that day even if they did their PT work already. They system will screw this up and pay hours coded as “sort and load” or “break” or basically any other work code at the wrong rate. Then the fun begins.. our management team has to request an adjustment which half the time payroll in Texas will do wrong or deny altogether. It’s mind numbing number crunching and you have to watch every detail or it’ll get more out of wack.
I know our ORS spends time every week doing multiple adjustments for this. It’s all very manual and detailed and all over small amounts of money that add up. It’s an incredible waste of time and effort, but I don’t think it’s dishonesty... it’s just a very stupid system that could be fixed. We spend tons of time on back end cleaning up the mess, if we could only get someone on the front end to make the system work correctly the first time!!
OK, rant off! Lol
burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
They stopped all the time card doctoring at my building
No time card altering without employees signature next to it
Netsua 3:16
AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
Us too. Steward always tells us the story of the stew before him getting his time card altered by a brand new OC Sup who didn’t know he was steward. It was like his 1st or 2nd week as OC....caught his ass red handed.
They have to do it with us and a stew present
4evapreloader
Well-Known Member
Preloader here. As far as I'm concerned, if my start time is correct when I punch in, I'm reasonably confident my paycheck will be correct. My issue arose because the start time on the clock was incorrect and they refused, yes outright refused to fix it. Now why would anyone in their right mind refuse to fix a problem that can easily be fixed. Obviously there's some incentive for mgt to cheat. To answer Integrity my steward gave me a phone number to call to report the problem. Magically the problem was no longer a problem after a few weeks. UPS soups will tell you the sky is green and make fun of you if you don't believe them.
SameRightsForAll
Well-Known Member
Corporate is in on it. Don't be gullible.
allahuakbar
She/Her
I’ve never had a time card issue. It blows my mind the stuff your hubs try to get over on you guys.
Integrity
Binge Poster
I would disagree with this without hard evidence.
meritocracy
Well-Known Member
Their fear of nagging and a possible grievance is stronger than their love of time theft. Hound them on it every single day until it's fixed (and maybe even a couple of days after) and you're a lot less likely to have issues. Also, it's a little awkward but take a photo of the supervisor's timesheet after you clock out. Makes it easier to check your time card every week and when they see you do it they'll know they can't get away with changing your clock in or clock out time.
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MenInBrown
Guest
Exactly why it was documented with corporate. UPS can’t be sued for things their sups do, unless they know about it and refuse to correct it.
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