Peak 2019 bonuses

[upschuck]

That sounds like it is for drivers who run under, the union members vote to have one or not, even though it doesn't specify that.

Every year there is an outcry over this, so I'm sure it has been hashed out somewhere.

We have the same language in the central

Section 10 There will be no newly implemented incentive plans or bonus plans unless approved by the affected employees and the Union. Current plans will remain in effect unless grieved by the majority of the employees involved and approved by the Joint Area Committee:

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I spoke to the secretary treasurer in person last year and he said the union did not approve the bonus, and that I could file a grievance on it, which I did.

How did the grievance turn out?

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I want the union to enforce their own contract. When the company can disregard the terms that they agree to, it weakens the local and union.

The employer shall not put into effect ANY new plan of an economic nature. The parentheses is used to cite examples of an economic nature which would include a retention bonus, also in parentheses it says ect.

Are your objections purely about the principle of contract enforcement? Or are you concerned that the bonuses are being applied unevenly? Either way I understand. But maybe I can give you a different perspective. Contract enforcement has economic costs. The union has every right to decide which grievances they will pursue. In this particular situation, no one is being negatively effected compared to where they were before the bonuses, it's just some are benefiting more than others. If you had to choose between spending money fighting this issue, or, say, safety or seniority violations, which would you choose?

As far as the contract language, the section title has bearing on the language in the section, people don't seem to realize that. The section is about "Incentive Plans-Bonus", not incentive plans and all other bonuses. Incentive plans are production bonuses. When you read the rest of the section, you have to keep in mind what the section is specifically referring to, which is set forth by the heading.

Just some food for thought.

 

[Justaloader]

Depends.on the location. Some places don't pay it because they can get enough people.
Last year my location was paying a $50 attendance bonus

Good to know. Thanks!

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Good to know. Thanks!

Some of the other builds was paying more than that.

 

[Justaloader]

Some of the other builds was paying more than that.

Is this documented somewhere that I should be able to see / find it? Or, is it a "word of mouth" type thing? I suppose I could ask HR about it, but if mum is the word, then I know how that conversation will go before I even have it.....

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Is this documented somewhere that I should be able to see / find it? Or, is it a "word of mouth" type thing? I suppose I could ask HR about it, but if mum is the word, then I know how that conversation will go before I even have it.....

They advertise it here but it's only for seasonal employees

 

[Justaloader]

They advertise it here but it's only for seasonal employees

Gotcha. I'm not seasonal. So, if it's true that the "incentives" only apply to seasonal folks, I'm SOL anyway. Granted, I get benefits and seasonals don't, so I guess it balances out.

 

[I have been lurking]

$200 bonus for sunrise shift, $100 bonus for every other shift. Will the union have the contract enforced when it clearly states in the contract that any bonus must be approved by the union first?

Warehouse Worker - Package Handler at United Parcel Service (UPS)

THAT'S IT?! I GOT $300 LAST YEAR!

 

[WorkingAsDirected]

Are your objections purely about the principle of contract enforcement? Or are you concerned that the bonuses are being applied unevenly? Either way I understand. But maybe I can give you a different perspective. Contract enforcement has economic costs. The union has every right to decide which grievances they will pursue. In this particular situation, no one is being negatively effected compared to where they were before the bonuses, it's just some are benefiting more than others. If you had to choose between spending money fighting this issue, or, say, safety or seniority violations, which would you choose?

This is the 3rd year UPS has given bonuses. The last time they gave out bonuses was peak 2017 all the way till January 2019. That's right, about 13 months of weekly bonuses for those who were hired for peak 2018! Why should it be acceptable for a new hire to make more than an employee with 10+ years that PAYS a union to make sure we ALL get equal rights. This type of behavior will continue if something isn't done.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

This is the 3rd year UPS has given bonuses. The last time they gave out bonuses was peak 2018 all the way till January 2019. That's right, about 13 months of weekly bonuses for those who were hired for peak 2018! Why should it be acceptable for a new hire to make more than an employee with 10+ years that PAYS a union to make sure we ALL get equal rights. This type of behavior will continue if something isn't done.

The contract says minimum pay for employees, they can't do a dang in thing if the company wants to pay more

 

[UnconTROLLed]

UPS must do something to get seasonals in. Without bonus incentives, the very low pay, erratic scheduling/hours and miserable working conditions, what incentive is there??

Non-union Amazon pays more, better working conditions with benefits right away.

Thanks Teamsters

 

[WorkingAsDirected]

The contract says minimum pay for employees, they can't do a dang in thing if the company wants to pay more

Well the company had two options then, during the recent contract they could have put an even higher starting wage to stay competitive in the job market, or they can give bonuses to all employees during peak season.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Well the company had two options then, during the recent contract they could have put an even higher starting wage to stay competitive in the job market, or they can give bonuses to all employees during peak season.

We finally got a contract with higher starting wages, something we never had before

 

[Poop Head]

Thanks Teamsters

I'm sure ups's guys were pushing for higher wages, and our guys shut em down.. (Sarcasm)

 

[Justaloader]

UPS must do something to get seasonals in. Without bonus incentives, the very low pay, erratic scheduling/hours and miserable working conditions, what incentive is there??

Non-union Amazon pays more, better working conditions with benefits right away.

Thanks Teamsters

I think about this every time our hub turns into a show due to management trying to make numbers look good. Hopefully once peak ends, operations will go back to normal...IE how they were in August and September (I can only reference those months as I started in August).

 

[zubenelgenubi]

This is the 3rd year UPS has given bonuses. The last time they gave out bonuses was peak 2017 all the way till January 2019. That's right, about 13 months of weekly bonuses for those who were hired for peak 2018! Why should it be acceptable for a new hire to make more than an employee with 10+ years that PAYS a union to make sure we ALL get equal rights. This type of behavior will continue if something isn't done.

Like I said, I understand where you are coming from. For me, it was being in the group of drivers who were the first to get hired under the 4 year progression, after waiting 7 years to go driving, only to have the progression rates bumped way up right after finishing progression. And almost every driver hired after me has only had to wait a couple years at most. Over the course of my career, all other things equal, I am behind everyone who went before and is coming after me by anywhere from $20k to over $100k. I'm not happy about it, but there's not much I can do.

Your's might be an issue where you could get enough other part timers who are getting shafted to start filing grievances every single week. The lack of catch up pay for senior part timers was one of the reasons I voted no on this last contract, so by all means, go after what you can get.

 

[PT Car Washer]

We finally got a contract with higher starting wages, something we never had before

Correction. Something we have never had in over 35 years. Before Starting wages went up every 2 years with a new contract. Maybe some of the old times can confirm this.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Correction. Something we have never had in over 35 years. Before Starting wages went up every 2 years with a new contract. Maybe some of the old times can confirm this.

It's been a long time. It was stuck in $8 forever went up.to.$10 in 2013

 

[Poop Head]

Correction. Something we have never had in over 35 years. Before Starting wages went up every 2 years with a new contract. Maybe some of the old times can confirm this.

Aren't you one of the oldest on here?