No one ever said the US wasn't involved in funneling arms and such to the Mujahideen through Pakistan. What the CIA didn't do was fund or arm the Arab Afghans like Bin laden. In fact, the Mujahideen hated the likes of Bin Laden because they were haughty and acted like kings. Even though both elements shared the same agenda, pushing the soviets back out of Afghanistan, there was often blood spilled between them.
As far as the CIA was concerned, we didn't need the Arab afghans when there were hundreds of thousands of Mujahideen eager to enter the fight. As for Bin Laden, he didn't need our help. He had his own money.
In the long run there are two facts that never go away. One being that the greatest atrocities ever committed against Muslem people are committed BY Muslem people. Number two is number one leaves the rest of the world a choice. We can either look away (as we were trying to do with Europe in WWII) or we can try to intervene on behalf of persecuted peoples. Intervention also leaves us a choice. Direct confrontation via military action, as we did when Iraq invaded Kuwait, or by trying to arm an insurgency in the hopes that they can librate themselves. The latter rarely works out well as you generally end up with just another dictator committing just as many atrocities. Only now they have our sticky fingerprints all over them.
Bush's efforts to exact a "regime change" came with the plan to keep troops and order in place until a representative government could be formed and a well trained military could take over the daunting task of keeping radical elements from overrunning things again. Iraq was taking longer than we would have liked, but it was on the right path.
Now, because we pulled out in spite of everything the generals on the ground said would happen, Iraq has become a total bloodbath and stronghold for the worst terrorist organizations yet.
Everything you just said is nonsense.
First, you are completely wrong on bin laden. Without the USA , Bin Laden was nothing. His extensive training at CIA headquarters along with
Ayman al-Zawahiri created the two most influential figures in the middle east. "Their" freedom fighters, as they were called, were all recruited with money that the USA provided. Those fighters didnt fight for free.
Second, we NEEDED the mujahideen to do "OUR" dirty work in a proxy war with Russia, as we were not about to do it ourselves. Hopefully, you understand that.
Thirdly, in WWII, it was only the REPUBLICANS in congress that wanted to stay out of WWII and it was FDR who told them to pound sand. The republicans tried desperately to keep out of WWII, and its no wonder, there were many connections to the nazi regime through family members... Aka: granddad Bush.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
Financial ties to the german government would result in catastrophic financial losses for those doing business with the nazi government.
Fourthly, BUSH's war was nonsense from the jump, and NO plan was in place to fix anything. In fact, in 1994, Dick Cheney said this:
Everything Cheney said came true, the country is falling apart.
Lastly, it was the GENERALS who recommended taking our troops out of IRAQ, not Obama. Like its been explained a thousand times before on this board, but guys like you just refuse to listen, the USA and IRAQ could not agree on a status forces agreement that included IMMUNITY for our soldiers who were committing crimes and for that reason, we had to pull out of the country.
Something that is ignored in this country, the dozens and dozens of crimes against humanity by our troops in IRAQ from murder, to rape, to sodomy of children, to burgulary to robbery, there are hundreds and hundreds of court martials in the military for these crimes.
Leaving troops in the country would not have solved or prevented a single thing. The Installed government we put in were committing attrocities against the Sunni people and like Cheney said, on part after another would simply fall into chaos.
"mission accomplished" circa 1994.
For you to believe anything otherwise shows how little you understand about the middle east, Iraq or history.
TOS.
