wilberforce15
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That's rayciss
Promoting racism, division and hate...Critical Race Theory.
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BeefiestMass
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That's true, Lutherans, Episcopalians, probably someone else I'm forgetting.
BeefiestMass
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I'm not sure what you mean by that.
There isn’t. Not even within the Lutheran church. The differences between the the ELCA and something like the Wisconsin or Missouri Synods are striking.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
How do you establish what is binding (a salvation/doctrinal issue) and what is a matter of judgement.
BeefiestMass
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Is it believed by all Christians, everywhere, at all times? This is more or less all that is binding. Disagreements over this are decided by consensus at council.
quad decade guy
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Humans arguing over salvation......and we haven't even proved there is salvation......or a God......or Heaven.....laughable.
quad decade guy
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Would it? You know this exactly how? How do you know what is going to happen by 20 years?
Ok. so they have healthcare....what about jobs?
Can they eat?
How much are you willing to give up in taxes and labor....and freedom...for this socialist utopia? Answer the question as a lot of these countries reach 70%.....
quad decade guy
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Absolute truth. Go!
Most dangerous creature on Earth.......a liberal Christian. Will take everything away from anyone to give to some one else.....including at the point of a gun....
quad decade guy
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Get rid of the scripture.....
Nobody know but budgets always project. I recall Obamacare when it came out was going to reach $1 trillion over 10 years.
quad decade guy
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How much are you willing to pay for someone not to work? Exactly now. How much of your hard earned(well maybe not) money are you willing to give away to illegal aliens and 75% unwed mothers?
I don’t care really. It’s part of the “United” part in “United States”. We determine as a nation what we want and we pitch in to pay for it. Nobody likes everything. There is no perfect budget.
My main disagreement is that neither side is willing to do the hard part in budgeting which is paying for it. We’ve done more than just ignore it. We’ve celebrated our prosperity and left the bill for future generations.
The best we can do now is to start investing in those future generations. We’ve friend’d them over and we owe it to them.
No, other than my wife worked for a short time as a church secretary for a Lutheran church. There are about 500 denominations in the U.S. so it's a bit of a broad assumption to say that none operate without an apostolic authority.
Just a little tidbit then.
If you were to enter an ELCA church on a Sunday and paid close attention and then a Missouri Synod church the following week, you would likely leave with the impression that you’d been to two completely different denominations on successive weeks. I would even say that if you asked each pastor their idea of that apostolic authority, you would get two very, very different answers.
oldngray
nowhere special
ELCA is far more liberal than the Missouri Synod
Sportello
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Which wife? It's hard to keep up. What year are we talking about? What happened to the last 'family'?
True. And neither synod thinks too highly of the other nor do they care to be confused with each other. May as we’ll be completely different denominations.
oldngray
nowhere special
Their territories don't overlap much. I went to a church that was affiliated with the Missouri. It was basically the flagship church and closely linked to a seminary but had some criticisms of what was being taught at the seminary and split off to become independent but kept a loose affiliation.
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