FromOffTheStreets
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If I was setting around the house enjoying retirement like you then I would gladly hop in, but unfortunately I'm still moving pkgs all day.@FromOffTheStreets
You up for a written debate/discussion on what the Bible says about baptism? I think it would be good and profitable for each of us as well as others to reveal /defend what we believe and why according to the scriptures. I think it could be done on this thread/ format.
We can work out the details. Length and number of responses, who is first affirmative, etc.
These propositions sound ok with you?
"The Scriptures teach that water baptism is for (in order to obtain) the remission of sins."
I affirm.
You deny.
"The Scriptures teach that salvation comes at the point of faith, before and without water baptism."
You affirm.
I deny.
At my church, it's confession of faith immediately followed by baptism & other "works of obedience" so I have no problem with baptism. I would highly encourage it.
So far This is what I've gathered from the disagreement.
Most churches;
Salvation = belief in the birth death & resurrection of Jesus
Obedience = baptism, communion, scripture etc.
Brownflush;
Salvation = belief in the birth death & resurrection of Jesus + baptism
Obedience = communion, scripture etc.
To move farther
Catholics;
Salvation = belief, baptism, sacraments, hail Mary's, confession
Obedience = go to church, pay $
Every other religion;
Salvation = work to attain, work to attain, work to attain
Obedience = work to attain