Religion

[Integrity]

So let me get this straight.. when Jesus quotes Moses and says “in the beginning ( Creation) when God made male and female ( humans not evolving out of pond scum) .. you’re saying that is what??

I said nothing about this.

 

[BrownFlush]

Actually he said "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." KJV but it doesn't appear the use of "in" is in any translation. So I don't believe he was talking about Creation specifically but was essentially saying they have been made male and female from the very start. Important to get it right, don't you think?

Actually he was talking about His plan for marriage he instituted "from the beginning" or in your words "from the start" One man and one woman for life.No divorce except for death and/or fornication.

Did he "make them" male and female "from the start?" Or did he wait until they evolved from pond scum into a male and female and then let them know his marriage law?

 

[BrownFlush]

I said nothing about this.

The way I see it, it would not make Jesus a liar by His referencing , fables, myths, parables, or allegories.

So let me get this straight.. when Jesus quotes Moses and says “in the beginning ( Creation) when God made male and female.. you’re saying that is what??

What is it? A parable, a fable, a myth, or an allegory?

 

[BrownFlush]

"but from the beginning it was not so; from the beginning of time, or of the creation, or of the world, or at the first institution of marriage, and in the first ages of the world, there was no such permission, nor any such practice" -Gill

 

[vantexan]

Actually he was talking about His plan for marriage he instituted "from the beginning" or in your words "from the start" One man and one woman for life.No divorce except for death and/or fornication.

Did he "make them" male and female "from the start?" Or did he wait until they evolved from pond scum into a male and female and then let them know his marriage law?

The point being is we shouldn't change words to better fit our narrative.

 

[BrownFlush]

The point being is we shouldn't change words to better fit our narrative.

Wellll, thank you for the correction. I just shot it from memory, never looked at one translation. There was no intent to "fit our narrative" One hundred hits from a wet noodle.

Can you fit this in some kind of narrative from some of the other comments?...

Did he "make them" male and female "from the start?" Or did he wait until they evolved from pond scum into a male and female and then let them know his marriage law?

 

[vantexan]

Wellll, thank you for the correction. I just shot it from memory, never looked at one translation. There was no intent to "fit our narrative" One hundred hits from a wet noodle.

Can you fit this in some kind of narrative from some of the other comments?...

Nope, enjoying my evening, just wanted to right a great travesty of misquoting our Lord. Might lead people astray.

 

[BrownFlush]

Nope, enjoying my evening, just wanted to right a great travesty of misquoting our Lord. Might lead people astray.

I'd have to say you showing about as much spine as @Integrity is the great travesty.
No might to it. You're a true leader in leading people astray.
Enjoy your evening.smh

 

[El Correcto]

Wellll, thank you for the correction. I just shot it from memory, never looked at one translation. There was no intent to "fit our narrative" One hundred hits from a wet noodle.

Can you fit this in some kind of narrative from some of the other comments?...

Dinosaurs and human beings didn’t live on the planet at the same time.
I don’t care how much you derail the original point of the argument with Bible nonsense.

Can you please just read something other than the Bible for about 5 minutes and actually learn something.

 

[vantexan]

I'd have to say you showing about as much spine as @Integrity is the great travesty.
No might to it. You're a true leader in leading people astray.
Enjoy your evening.smh

Thank you. Excuse me while I slither away. Would you like an apple?

 

[BrownFlush]

Dinosaurs and human beings didn’t live on the planet at the same time.
I don’t care how much you derail the original point of the argument with Bible nonsense.

Can you please just read something other than the Bible for about 5 minutes and actually learn something.

No derail , ElHomo. I'm gonna stick with my position.
All creatures that ever existed were created before day(a literal 24 hour day) six. On that day God made a man.
I'm gonna go with Scriptures that proves that dinosaurs and man existed on the earth at the same time.
I've read the scientific material probably as much as I have the scripture. It's hilarious to me the lengths men have gone to trying to convince us there is no God.

 

[BrownFlush]

Thank you. Excuse me while I slither away. Would you like an apple?

Sad.

 

[vantexan]

No derail , ElHomo. I'm gonna stick with my position.
All creatures that ever existed were created before day(a literal 24 hour day) six. On that day God made a man.
I'm gonna go with Scriptures that proves that dinosaurs and man existed on the earth at the same time.
I've read the scientific material probably as much as I have the scripture. It's hilarious to me the lengths men have gone to trying to convince us there is no God.

I believe in God. Read the first chapter of Genesis.

 

[BrownFlush]

I believe in God. Read the first chapter of Genesis.

Welllll..la di frickin da!

 

[vantexan]

I believe in God. Read the first chapter of Genesis.

Now read 2 Peter 3:8.

 

[BrownFlush]

Now read 2 Peter 3:8.

Does a thousand years have a morning and an evening?

 

[El Correcto]

I'm gonna go with Scriptures that proves that dinosaurs and man existed on the earth at the same time.

Scriptures don’t prove anything, in fact they are very much wrong and provably so.

I've read the scientific material probably as much as I have the scripture. It's hilarious to me the lengths men have gone to trying to convince us there is no God.

It’s sad that you think dinosaurs not living at same times as humans is a satanic atheist plot against god.

You do realize you’re an insane person right?

 

[vantexan]

Does a thousand years have a morning and an evening?

You can't definitively say it's 7 24 hr days with God based on what Peter wrote. But a man with primitive technology might frame it that way to explain the world around him. If you're going to be that certain then why stop there? Should we follow Leviticus? Of course not. We're under the New Law. But you want to be legalistic.

 

[Integrity]

What is it? A parable, a fable, a myth, or an allegory?

You choose.

Not the same but similar literary devices.

Most can probably be found in the Bible.

 

[Integrity]

I never said I thought 6-8000 years was the timeline I believed in. I do believe testing is not infallible, though.

Agreed.

Man’s theories.

Only God truly knows. But that’s my theory.