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Thebrownblob

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Are you saying God can make a wrong choice?
I’m saying he gave us free will Because he did not want us to be robots. Robots cannot really love. With our free, will, we can make the wrong choice because we did not ask him what his will was, and he will have to turn around and turn that poor choice of our own into something good.

Do you believe everything is predestined?
 

Integrity

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I’m saying he gave us free will Because he did not want us to be robots. Robots cannot really love. With our free, will, we can make the wrong choice because we did not ask him what his will was, and he will have to turn around and turn that poor choice of our own into something good.

Do you believe everything is predestined?
Please explain your understanding of what you mean by predestined?
 

Thebrownblob

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Yes they do however it is obviously not a mistake that mistakes happen in God‘s world therefore nothing happens in God‘s world by mistake even mistakes.
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vantexan

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Never said I would apart @ from calling 911 but your saying that raping a woman or molesting a child isn’t a mistake is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard from you.
I didn't say that. I pointed out that you said nothing, absolutely nothing, in this world happens by mistake. So if it didn't happen by mistake then it's either one of two things. Either it happened because it is God's will that it happened. Or it happened because the rapist/molester/murderer/robber/etc chose to do so. If it's God's will then no matter what we do we have no control over our choices. We do things because that's what God wants. Either that or God has given us freedom to choose. Free will. You reject that because you believe there isn't such a thing as sin, we aren't in danger of ending up in Hell, we're all going to Heaven. Not what the Bible teaches but then you reject everything in the Bible that you personally disagree with. You or the people you follow are teaching very different things than what we're taught by Jesus and his Apostles.
 

Integrity

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I didn't say that. I pointed out that you said nothing, absolutely nothing, in this world happens by mistake. So if it didn't happen by mistake then it's either one of two things. Either it happened because it is God's will that it happened. Or it happened because the rapist/molester/murderer/robber/etc chose to do so. If it's God's will then no matter what we do we have no control over our choices. We do things because that's what God wants. Either that or God has given us freedom to choose. Free will. You reject that because you believe there isn't such a thing as sin, we aren't in danger of ending up in Hell, we're all going to Heaven. Not what the Bible teaches but then you reject everything in the Bible that you personally disagree with. You or the people you follow are teaching very different things than what we're taught by Jesus and his Apostles.
Must we do this again.

I don’t believe God giving us free will was a mistake by God do you?
 

tourists24

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All this conversation reminds me of a story when I was delivering at a mall when I saw a lady running out of a department store and a huge huge man came out and tackled her to the ground. She was screaming at the top of her lungs for help. Now I’m a little dude and this guy was a monster; so I paused and finally said “well here I go, I’m gonna get killed now”.
Just as I got to them ready to pounce on him he pulled out handcuffs to put her in them (law enforcement). I’ve never been so happy to realize she was a thief lol. True story. Sorry, but just had to insert a little comic relief but also relatable
 
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