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Integrity

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And, as you believe we're all going to Heaven, it doesn't matter what we choose to do, right? There are no wrong choices?
You are coming up with some doozies lately.

I do believe everyone who is going to heaven is going to heaven.

IMO these 2 questions are so stupid they really don’t deserve the time to say they are stupid.
 

vantexan

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You believe God makes mistakes?

I don’t.
I don't believe everything happens because God wants it to happen. He gives us free will. Thus a man who decides to drag a woman into an alley to rape her isn't doing it because God wants that to happen. It isn't God's mistake that the man chose to do that. It's the man's choice he made. And he will be judged accordingly for making such a heinous choice. As will people who put sexually graphic material into a school library. Or two people having sex outside of wedlock. And two of the same sex, married or not. Or someone who steals. Someone who murders. And a number of other choices that people wrongfully make. It's called sin, and you're in denial of it.
 

Integrity

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I don't believe everything happens because God wants it to happen. He gives us free will. Thus a man who decides to drag a woman into an alley to rape her isn't doing it because God wants that to happen. It isn't God's mistake that the man chose to do that. It's the man's choice he made. And he will be judged accordingly for making such a heinous choice. As will people who put sexually graphic material into a school library. Or two people having sex outside of wedlock. And two of the same sex, married or not. Or someone who steals. Someone who murders. And a number of other choices that people wrongfully make. It's called sin, and you're in denial of it.
And none of this is a mistake, no?

Remember friend, I said “I believe nothing, absolutely nothing happens in Gods world by mistake.”

You said, and I quote “I don't believe everything happens because God wants it to happen.”

Please get my quotes and beliefs right if you actually want to have honest and open discussion.

You won’t because you really don’t want open and honest discussion, I got it.
 
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vantexan

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And none of this is a mistake, no?

Remember friend, I said “I believe nothing, absolutely nothing happens in Gods world by mistake.”

You said, and I quote “I don't believe everything happens because God wants it to happen.”

Please get my quotes and beliefs right if you actually want to have honest and open discussion.

You won’t because you really don’t want open and honest discussion, I got it.
I made a declarative statement. How is that being dishonest? Did you see quotation marks? I didn't quote you, I said what I believe. But please tell me how does "I believe nothing, absolutely nothing happens in Gods world by mistake" not equal that anything that happens only happens because that was what God wanted to happen? If it's not a mistake then it's in God's plan, God's will for it to happen. Right? So when you say that nothing is a mistake then you are saying God wants us to do sinful acts. This all goes back to whether you would intervene to stop a woman or child from being harmed and you came up with nothing happens by mistake which I'm guessing means if something heinous is happening then it's supposed to happen so therefore you shouldn't interfere. Do you think you can give a straight answer without trying to get out of it by calling me dumb or stupid?
 

Integrity

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I made a declarative statement. How is that being dishonest? Did you see quotation marks? I didn't quote you, I said what I believe. But please tell me how does "I believe nothing, absolutely nothing happens in Gods world by mistake" not equal that anything that happens only happens because that was what God wanted to happen? If it's not a mistake then it's in God's plan, God's will for it to happen. Right? So when you say that nothing is a mistake then you are saying God wants us to do sinful acts. This all goes back to whether you would intervene to stop a woman or child from being harmed and you came up with nothing happens by mistake which I'm guessing means if something heinous is happening then it's supposed to happen so therefore you shouldn't interfere. Do you think you can give a straight answer without trying to get out of it by calling me dumb or stupid?
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