religion

[Integrity]

The New Testament clearly outlines making the lost aware of the sins they are committing, making them aware of Jesus' plan of salvation, and having them repent of their sins and being baptized, a symbolic act that symbolizes the washing away of sin and rising up as a new creature. It starts with preaching or teaching.

If this is what then you test me teaches you then by all means you are obligated.

The New Testament teaches me that I haven’t been sent to condemn but to love.

 

[Thebrownblob]

If this is what then you test me teaches you then by all means you are obligated.

The New Testament teaches me that I haven’t been sent to condemn but to love.

Condemn no, that’s not our responsibility.

Warn, yes

“More than 100 verses in the New Testament tell us to warn others. It's part of our responsibility as followers of Jesus. In Acts 20:31, Paul writes: “Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears”

And Jesus told us to repent of our sins. It would be difficult for us to understand what they’re doing could be a sin and cause harm with their relationship with Christ if we did not warn them.

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• Matthew 4:17: "From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, 'Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.'"
  
  
• • Luke 5:32: "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance."
  • Luke 13:5: "Unless you repent, you will all likewise perish."
  • Mark 1:15: "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."

 

[vantexan]

If this is what then you test me teaches you then by all means you are obligated.

The New Testament teaches me that I haven’t been sent to condemn but to love.

You ignore so much of the New Testament. Showing concern for one's soul's salvation is showing love. You characterize it as condemning but nothing is more important than one's soul and it's made clear that if one continues to live in sin then they will lose their soul to eternal punishment.

 

[Integrity]

You ignore so much of the New Testament. Showing concern for one's soul's salvation is showing love. You characterize it as condemning but nothing is more important than one's soul and it's made clear that if one continues to live in sin then they will lose their soul to eternal punishment.

That is true.

God is love. No?

Do you ignore that verse for the sake of others?

Isn’t telling a mixed up broken world of people “the Good News” that God so loves the world, He doesn’t hate the world as many believe. Isn’t this belief that he hates the world and doesn’t love the world unconditionally a sin, equal to, if not worse, if there is a worse thing, than the sin that you love to talk about homosexuality.

is not telling this world of this great love a warning? I think it is.

God so loves the world, God so loves you. He sent Jesus to save the world, not condemned the world.

Sharing this love with others is a warning.

 

[Thebrownblob]

That is true.

God is love. No?

Do you ignore that verse for the sake of others?

Isn’t telling a mixed up broken world of people “the Good News” that God so loves the world, He doesn’t hate the world as many believe. Isn’t this belief that he hates the world and doesn’t love the world unconditionally a sin, equal to, if not worse, if there is a worse thing, than the sin that you love to talk about homosexuality.

is not telling this world of this great love a warning? I think it is.

God so loves the world, God so loves you. He sent Jesus to save the world, not condemned the world.

Sharing this love with others is a warning.

He is a god of love, but he’s also a god of wrath when we are disobedient. We would be wise to have good counsel and study the scriptures on what he considers disobedient and sin.

Ephesians 5:6

Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.

 

[Integrity]

Condemn no, that’s not our responsibility.

Warn, yes

“More than 100 verses in the New Testament tell us to warn others. It's part of our responsibility as followers of Jesus. In Acts 20:31, Paul writes: “Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears”

And Jesus told us to repent of our sins. It would be difficult for us to understand what they’re doing could be a sin and cause harm with their relationship with Christ if we did not warn them.

l

• Matthew 4:17: "From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, 'Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.'"
  
  
• • Luke 5:32: "I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance."
  • Luke 13:5: "Unless you repent, you will all likewise perish."
  • Mark 1:15: "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."

Repent means turn from. No?

God is needed to truly repent. No?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Repent means turn from. No?

God is needed to truly repent. No?

I might be misunderstanding you, but I don’t ever hear you saying people should turn from anything. You seem to give advice that anything anyone does is just fine. I don’t consider that love.

If I truly love someone, I will warn them. It’s certainly their choice, but they cannot say they were not warned.

 

[Integrity]

He is a god of love, but he’s also a god of wrath when we are disobedient. We would be wise to have good counsel and study the scriptures on what he considers disobedient and sin.

Ephesians 5:6

Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.

Obviously He is. But wrath according to you? Wrath according to authors of Books, religious or not.? What is wrath?

A lightning bolt cast at the homosexual?

Irritability, restlessness, discontentment could that be the wrath of God?

I have truly felt the wrath of God in the years I didn’t accept his radical infinite and great love for me!!

God loves you unconditionally! God loves me unconditionally!

look up to God and his great love and praise him!!

 

[Integrity]

He is a god of love, but he’s also a god of wrath when we are disobedient. We would be wise to have good counsel and study the scriptures on what he considers disobedient and sin.

Ephesians 5:6

Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.

Obviously He is. But wrath according to you? Wrath according to authors of Books, religious or not.? What is wrath?

A lightning bolt cast at the homosexual?

Irritability, restlessness, discontentment could that be the wrath of God?

I have truly felt the wrath of God in the years I didn’t accept his radical infinite and great love for me!!

God loves you unconditionally! God loves me unconditionally!

look up to God and his great love and praise him!!

 

[oldngray]

I might be misunderstanding you, but I don’t ever hear you saying people should turn from anything. You seem to give advice that anything anyone does is just fine. I don’t consider that love.

If I truly love someone, I will warn them. It’s certainly their choice, but they cannot say they were not warned.

Love the person but hate the sin

 

[Integrity]

I might be misunderstanding you, but I don’t ever hear you saying people should turn from anything. You seem to give advice that anything anyone does is just fine. I don’t consider that love.

If I truly love someone, I will warn them. It’s certainly their choice, but they cannot say they were not warned.

Maybe?

I say to all Christians and all sinners turn from hate and turn towards the love of God.

God so loves the world, God so loves you!!

Repent and turn to that love.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Maybe?

I say to all Christians and all sinners turn from hate and turn towards the love of God.

God so loves the world, God so loves you!!

Repent and turn to that love.

But how did they know what to turn from? If you never will tell them?

 

[Integrity]

Love the person but hate the sin

Missing the mark of Christ obviously will be accompanied by some earthy wrath, or pain if you will. My observation is that the sin may be the very thing that draws a person to the love of God, in Christ Jesus.

 

[Integrity]

But how did they know what to turn from? If you never will tell them?

Don't have to. Sincerely turning towards the love of God simultaneously involves turning from all hate of self and others, all sin. God will reveal to them all at the perfect time of His choosing and His will.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Missing the mark of Christ obviously will be accompanied by some earthy wrath, or pain if you will. My observation is that the sin may be the very thing that draws a person to the love of God, in Christ Jesus.

Again, how do they know where to aim when you never will let someone know? Jesus also tells us we will have pain for following him so how will they know the difference?

 

[Thebrownblob]

Don't have to. Sincerely turning towards the love of God simultaneously involves turning from all hate of self and others, all sin. God will reveal to them all at the perfect time of His choosing and His will.

No, no it doesn’t. Even born again, Christians sin. So clearly there’s more to it than what you’re saying.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Obviously He is. But wrath according to you? Wrath according to authors of Books, religious or not.? What is wrath?

A lightning bolt cast at the homosexual?

Irritability, restlessness, discontentment could that be the wrath of God?

I have truly felt the wrath of God in the years I didn’t accept his radical infinite and great love for me!!

God loves you unconditionally! God loves me unconditionally!

look up to God and his great love and praise him!!

What are you talking about lightning bolts? The Bible and Jesus call us to repent what you’re suggesting is there’s no need for repentance because there is no wrong. He’s not gonna hit you with a bolt of lightning. But on the day of judgment he will tell you depart for me. I never knew you.

The path you suggesting never convict someone to repent for anything people will be disappointed on the day of judgment as will you be.

Are you a homosexual? Why did you bring that up because I didn’t? There’s plenty of sexual sin that can separate us from Christ.

You said he was a god of love and I said he’s also a god of wrath. Because you left it out purposely I’m sure.. is God gonna come down here and give you a hug literally?

 

[Integrity]

Again, how do they know where to aim when you never will let someone know? Jesus also tells us we will have pain for following him so how will they know the difference?

The target to aim for is God's love. I say this all the time.

God loves you brother, embrace that love!

 

[Thebrownblob]

The target to aim for is God's love. I say this all the time.

God loves you brother, embrace that love!

You cannot know what God’s love is if you don’t understand what he feels is a sin so you’re telling people to aim wherever they want.

I know God loves me. Even when my aim is off, but that doesn’t mean I should not try to aim in the correct way and I certainly shouldn’t allow people to tell me not wrong or that my aim is never wrong.. That’s actually not brotherly love. That’s appeasement.

 

[Integrity]

No, no it doesn’t. Even born again, Christians sin. So clearly there’s more to it than what you’re saying.

You still have hate of self and others in you?

God loves you!