religion

[vantexan]

What is faith?

Who's on first?

 

[vantexan]

Yes.
Yes.
It is my belief He treats each person individually, specifically, and for His specific and individual purpose that He made them.

Well he must not care about billions but I suspect you believe they aren't lost. When I was a teenager I met a 75 yr old missionary who risked his life smuggling Bibles into the Soviet Union. That's in sharp contrast to "I am not a strong proponent of foreign missionary work."

But I guess he was being foolish because they didn't need the Bible to know God and become Christians, huh?

 

[Integrity]

Who's on first?

Do you even believe is spiritual principles?

You seem to struggle with the God’s Sovereignty.

 

[Integrity]

Well he must not care about billions but I suspect you believe they aren't lost. When I was a teenager I met a 75 yr old missionary who risked his life smuggling Bibles into the Soviet Union. That's in sharp contrast to "I am not a strong proponent of foreign missionary work."

But I guess he was being foolish because they didn't need the Bible to know God and become Christians, huh?

Each person is fearfully and wonderfully made. He’s so loves each one of them.

Happy for you and happy for him.

His belief and faith and yours did not have to be my belief in faith. Have at it.

Why would you call foolish for doing something he believed?

 

[Integrity]

Whom and/or what you put your faith in is the most important spiritual principle of a persons life.

 

[vantexan]

Do you even believe is spiritual principles?

You seem to struggle with the God’s Sovereignty.

Of course he's sovereign. You're the one failing to recognize that God has put conditions on our salvation and that we will be judged according to how we comply with his requirements.

 

[vantexan]

Each person is fearfully and wonderfully made. He’s so loves each one of them.

Happy for you and happy for him.

His belief and faith and yours did not have to be my belief in faith. Have at it.

Why would you call foolish for doing something he believed?

Of course I'm not calling him foolish. Merely pointing out by your own admission that his efforts as a missionary aren't what you deem necessary and if they aren't then he'd be foolish to risk his life bringing Bibles to the lost.

 

[vantexan]

Each person is fearfully and wonderfully made. He’s so loves each one of them.

Yet he's chosen to let billions die and go to hell rather than reveal himself to them and converse with them.

 

[Integrity]

Of course he's sovereign. You're the one failing to recognize that God has put conditions on our salvation and that we will be judged according to how we comply with his requirements.

What then does God being Sovereign over all Creation me to you?

There is only one condition, turn to Him with your whole being.

We will be judged according our faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ.

 

[Integrity]

Of course I'm not calling him foolish. Merely pointing out by your own admission that his efforts as a missionary aren't what you deem necessary and if they aren't then he'd be foolish to risk his life bringing Bibles to the lost.

Seems like you did.

True I do believe it is unnecessary.

I do not believe anyone who is sincerely following their faith and what they believe to be foolish. God will always reveal areas and instances where faith is misguided, prideful, or not acting out of love. Or just playing wrong for that man.

He has certainly done that for me. He can do that for the missionary that you mentioned, and he can do that for you?

 

[Integrity]

Yet he's chosen to let billions die and go to hell rather than reveal himself to them and converse with them.

God has allowed one to die for the many out of love, why would you think he wouldn’t allow many to die for one out of love.

God’s ways are not our ways. God’s love surpasses biblical knowledge.

 

[vantexan]

Seems like you did.

True I do believe it is unnecessary.

I do not believe anyone who is sincerely following their faith and what they believe to be foolish. God will always reveal areas and instances where faith is misguided, prideful, or not acting out of love. Or just playing wrong for that man.

He has certainly done that for me. He can do that for the missionary that you mentioned, and he can do that for you?

He would reveal to the missionary that bringing Bibles to the lost is unnecessary? Misguided, prideful, not acting out of love? Just plain wrong for that man?

 

[vantexan]

God has allowed one to die for the many out of love, why would you think he wouldn’t allow many to die for one out of love.

God’s ways are not our ways. God’s love surpasses biblical knowledge.

Yet you're telling us over and over that God reveals himself to us out of love. What is loving about letting billions go to hell? Are their souls less important than yours? And then you use the blanket defense that God's ways aren't our ways. He must have his reasons for letting billions spend eternity in hell while you get to go to heaven. In spite the fact that we're told that God so loved the world....

Obviously to make your personal theology work you have to overlook the problems with it. Much more important to you that we follow.your teaching than comply with that troubling Biblical doctrine.

 

[Integrity]

He would reveal to the missionary that bringing Bibles to the lost is unnecessary? Misguided, prideful, not acting out of love? Just plain wrong for that man?

That is between him and God.

I respect him for acting on his belief and faith.

 

[Integrity]

Yet you're telling us over and over that God reveals himself to us out of love. What is loving about letting billions go to hell? Are their souls less important than yours? And then you use the blanket defense that God's ways aren't our ways. He must have his reasons for letting billions spend eternity in hell while you get to go to heaven. In spite the fact that we're told that God so loved the world....

Obviously to make your personal theology work you have to overlook the problems with it. Much more important to you that we follow.your teaching than comply with that troubling Biblical doctrine.

Yes.

I don‘t know. God’s love surpasses knowledge.

No.

Yes.

Yes.

I see no problems with it.

If you haven’t turned towards His amazing love then, I do implore you to repent (turn) from whatever is impeding you from turning to His love and do so now.

Don’t follow my teaching, follow my teacher, Jesus Christ!

 

[vantexan]

Yes.

I don‘t know. God’s live surpasses knowledge.

No.

Yes.

Yes.

I see no problems with it.

If you haven’t turned towards His amazing love then, I do implore you to repent (turn) from whatever is impeding you fro his love and do so now.

Don’t follow my teaching, follow my teacher, Jesus Christ!

Jesus isn't teaching you this. You're making it up as you.go. You'd rather say that billions going to hell is God's plan for them than admit that without the Bible they have no hope of entering Heaven. Because if you admit that they can find salvation through reading.the Bible and not from God appearing to them and communicating directly with them then your whole theology falls apart.

 

[Integrity]

Jesus isn't teaching you this. You're making it up as you.go. You'd rather say that billions going to hell is God's plan for them than admit that without the Bible they have no hope of entering Heaven. Because if you admit that they can find salvation through reading.the Bible and not from God appearing to them and communicating directly with them then your whole theology falls apart.

Your understanding of my understanding of God is very inaccurate.

I firmly believe more will be revealed to us even as to the purpose of our communicating on the BC.

May you experience His love for you in an all abiding way.

I am beginning to believe you do not believe in spiritual principles.

 

[vantexan]

Your understanding of my understanding of God is very inaccurate.

I firmly believe more will be revealed to us even as to the purpose of our communicating on the BC.

May you experience His love for you in an all abiding way.

I am beginning to believe you do not believe in spiritual principles.

I've been certain for awhile that your concept of spiritual principles isn't Bible based.

 

[BrownFlush]

Don’t know. You seem to know.

You don't know about one saved always saved? Can't be lost?

 

[Integrity]

I've been certain for awhile that your concept of spiritual principles isn't Bible based.

Do you believe in spiritual principles?