religion

[vantexan]

Van things were written in the Bible that Jesus did didn’t even do according to him. This book is pure fiction to him and he’s making a mockery of it.

Where he's concerned I'm going to follow the Bible every time where he finds fault with it. Somehow he got the notion that his view is just as valid as an apostle and that it's his right to reject that apostle's writings if they don't align with his views.

 

[Integrity]

It doesn't fit your definition of who Jesus was so therefore it must not be true. You don't get to make that decision and if you're influencing others to see it that way then you are a false teacher.

That is not what I said. I said I have questions and doubts as to whether it is true or not. I did not say it wasn’t true.

If that is the way you see it that is the way you see it, I’m glad that you trust your conscience in this area.

 

[Integrity]

Perverting the truth just like Jim Jones

if that’s the way you see it I cannot control your belief or your opinion of me. I am glad that you are following your conscience in regard to me..

 

[Integrity]

At this point, the Holy Spirit has told me to block him.

I am glad that you recognize the Holy Spirit speaking into your conscience, I strongly suggest anyone who truly believes they are hearing from God in this way to obey him.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Where he's concerned I'm going to follow the Bible every time where he finds fault with it. Somehow he got the notion that his view is just as valid as an apostle and that it's his right to reject that apostles writings if they don't align with his views.

I’m shocked you’re going to defer to the Bible and not him? But he talked to the Holy Spirit.

 

[vantexan]

That is bearing false witness against me, my friend.

That is pointing out what you've been saying all along, that you have it right and so does the parts of the Bible you agree with but not the parts you don't. Not your call to make and God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit didn't tell you it was ok to do as you please.

 

[vantexan]

Perverting the truth just like Jim Jones

Do not drink the Koolade!!

 

[Thebrownblob]

Do not drink the Koolade!!

Yep, people who spread these kinds of things may not physically kill people, but they are spiritually killing them.

 

[Integrity]

Where he's concerned I'm going to follow the Bible every time where he finds fault with it. Somehow he got the notion that his view is just as valid as an apostle and that it's his right to reject that apostles writings if they don't align with his views.

You should follow your belief, no doubt.

I do believe in the priesthood if all believers.

 

[vantexan]

You should follow your belief, no doubt.

I do believe in the priesthood if all believers.

Jesus's life and ministry aren't subject to different viewpoints. We are told that Jesus overturned the money changers tables in the temple and drove them out. We don't get to say, nah, doesn't sound like the Jesus I know. My Jesus would never do that. By saying that you are, and I'm sure you'll deny it, you are saying the writer of the Gospel is lying. You don't get to make that call. It's not subjective.

 

[Integrity]

Jesus's life and ministry aren't subject to different viewpoints. We are told that Jesus overturned the money changers tables in the temple and drove them out. We don't get to say, nah, doesn't sound like the Jesus I know. My Jesus would never do that. By saying that you are, and I'm sure you'll deny it, you are saying the writer of the Gospel is lying. You don't get to make that call. It's not subjective.

Thank you for your perspective, I respectfully disagree.

 

[vantexan]

Thank you for your perspective, I respectfully disagree.

Of course you do.

 

[Integrity]

I will praise You, O Lord, with my whole heart;
I will tell of all Your marvelous works.
2 I will be glad and rejoice in You;
I will sing praise to Your name, O Most High. Psalm 9:1-2 NKJV

 

[BrownFlush]

 

[Integrity]

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8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Rom 5:8 NIV

 

[vantexan]

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8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Rom 5:8 NIV

Let's accept all that Paul wrote since he was the chosen Apostle of Jesus who was guided by the Holy Spirit.

 

[BrownFlush]

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8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Rom 5:8 NIV

having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. -2 Tim.3:5

 

[Integrity]

Let's accept all that Paul wrote since he was the chosen Apostle of Jesus who was guided by the Holy Spirit.

15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me.18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[a] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. Rom 7:15-20

 

[BrownFlush]

''But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.''-1 Cor. 9:27
The power given the apostle by the Holy Spirt to reveal the mind of God did not make him bullet proof to temptation and sin.

 

[rickyb]

spirituality making a come back in america, protests are already across the nation, people were also upset that their townhalls.