Integrity
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Did I suggest you believe this? I don’t think I did.
Please describe to me in real terms an example of a person’s life at the exact moment their soul goes from being in a saved state to an unsaved state.
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Please describe to me in real terms an example of a person’s life at the exact moment their soul goes from being in a saved state to an unsaved state.
Integrity
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Ok. Thanks for for viewpoint on this.
We don't. When you are baptized you are added to the Church. You must attempt to live a faithful life as a Christian and when you falter with sin ask for forgiveness. If you choose to continue in sin, refusing to give it up, it will be up to God to judge you. Faithful Christians strive to live sin free and as they mature in the faith it becomes easier to not sin. But they will never be sinless which is why God's grace covers us when we fail if we ask for forgiveness, and strive to not do that sin again. There is no saved, lost, saved, lost, saved, lost.....just striving to live as best we can and be judged accordingly.
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So do you believe as Browny does that your soul can be saved then it can be unsaved?
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amen
I believe when we are baptized we are in a saved state. How we live our lives after that will determine our fate in the Day of Judgement. We are not free to sin as we like with no consequence.
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i never heard about the stock trade part before but i wouldnt be suprised.
None of which is true. For example 17 million didn't lose their Medicaid. The government is now requiring either part time work or even volunteer work to receive it.
democracy now has the same number....
my minister says we all cherry pick.
BrownFlush
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Simon, who believed and was baptized (became a Christian/ Saved Acts 8:13)"He that believes and is baptized shall be saved"-Jesus, Great Commission.
He sinned by wanting to buy the power of the Holy Spirit with money. Notice what Peter says to him in Acts 8 "No biggy, Brother! Once you're saved, No worries, No repentance, No asking for forgiveness! You don't need to!! Nothing is required! There's gonna be a guy named Calvin that's gonna come along in a few hundred years and get everyone believing this, too!
Or.... Did he say this..
“May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you. For I see that you are in the gallc of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity.” And Simon answered, “Pray for me to the Lord, that nothing of what you have said may come upon me.”
Sounds like ole Simon is lost if he doesn't do what the apostle told him to do. That once I'm saved I'll can never be lost false teaching is a lie.
He sinned by wanting to buy the power of the Holy Spirit with money. Notice what Peter says to him in Acts 8 "No biggy, Brother! Once you're saved, No worries, No repentance, No asking for forgiveness! You don't need to!! Nothing is required! There's gonna be a guy named Calvin that's gonna come along in a few hundred years and get everyone believing this, too!
Or.... Did he say this..
“May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you. For I see that you are in the gallc of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity.” And Simon answered, “Pray for me to the Lord, that nothing of what you have said may come upon me.”
Sounds like ole Simon is lost if he doesn't do what the apostle told him to do. That once I'm saved I'll can never be lost false teaching is a lie.
tourists24
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well that would make sense as to why you believe the things you do.
So? Look at the law and tell me where they took Medicaid away?
tourists24
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ok @rickyb..... contradiction claim number 1.... even Luke's version suggests that Jesus did indeed baptize Jesus, he simply adds that John was in prison at a point also. He never claims that someone else did the baptizing. Show me the text in the bible where that's wrong. It's also a recurring attempt to say the bible contradicts itself by using the viewpoints of different individual accounts. Just because the accounts are identical doesn't make it contradictory.
BrownFlush
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Judas was an Apostle who believed Jesus was the Son of God. During the Lord's three year ministry, Judas taught the Jews who Jesus was and confirmed his teaching by miracles. He wasn't and didn't become an unbeliever. He sinned when "Satan entered his heart" and he went for the money.
V64 Are two separate people in the line. Judas was the betrayer but not included in one of those who did not believe.
Is verse 65 that small still voice you can't explain that is not audible and is just full of feeling of that Holy Spirit feeling that the non spiritual just can't know? lol
There is a difference in sinning and completely returning to the world, serving the world and not the Lord. Both lead to damnation if you refuse to repent.
You can always come back, no matter what. The door of repentance is always open. It closes when you breath your last.
It's not just "talk" It's false teaching that will damn your soul. No man can snatch but, Satan certainly can and has and does.
The lost are lost. The saved can lose their salvation and be lost. Rejecting this is to reject plain bible teaching.
As a side note, faith alone never saved anyone. "Accepting" Jesus in your heart and saying a prayer to be saved is not found or taught anywhere scripture and never saved anyone.
Application? Might want to concentrate on what obedience to the gospel is and what the Bible actually teaches how one becomes a Christian. You can't lose what you don't have to begin with.
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BrownFlush
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Was Simon in or out ?
BrownFlush
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BrownFlush
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BrownFlush
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"And now, why do you wait? Arise and let's get that outward expression of an inward feeling thing going." Act 22:16
Or...
"And now, why do you wait? Arise and be baptized....what for? To do what? and wash away your sins." Acts 22:16
Interesting. The Holy Spirit records for us the conversion of an Apostle born out of due season. He believed, confessed, repented, and was baptized for the remission of his sins.
Wait. Could this be? I wonder.... If Jesus required Paul to do this...Why would one not infer all the apostles did? What do you know. When one uses scripture aright, we learn so much when false teaching is exposed.
Or...
"And now, why do you wait? Arise and be baptized....what for? To do what? and wash away your sins." Acts 22:16
Interesting. The Holy Spirit records for us the conversion of an Apostle born out of due season. He believed, confessed, repented, and was baptized for the remission of his sins.
Wait. Could this be? I wonder.... If Jesus required Paul to do this...Why would one not infer all the apostles did? What do you know. When one uses scripture aright, we learn so much when false teaching is exposed.
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