If you owned a Bible you'd know that.
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tourists24
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I believe He is and has the path to heaven. He did His part here on earth. It’s up to us to decide if He want Him as our savior and follow Him. It’s the decision that will lead us to heaven or separate from Him
tourists24
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And that right there is why it’s ok to air any disagreements we have (imo). We have our trip to heaven in our future. Now I will learn from you and hopefully vice versa
Integrity
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Is the finish work of Christ enough to cover all the sins you will commit in the future?
Integrity
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I can‘t argue with that, my friend and brother.
Thebrownblob
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If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
Clearly, you can see it’s not impossible to not remain in him. What he did for me was enough, but if I don’t accept he’s Not gonna force me to take it.
What do you think it means?
Thebrownblob
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If you ask for forgiveness. But if someone tells you you’re doing nothing wrong and you never ask or don’t know better than to ask him Then probably not.
tourists24
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Well I hope to keep the sins to a minimum but I know they’re gonna happen. And yep it’s covered but I still take them to Him and do my best to live more to glorify Him
Integrity
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My understanding of remaining in Christ means exactly that. Remaining in his forgiveness remaining in his perfect life remaining in his resurrection from the dead remaining in his ascension and exaltation to the father’s right hand, abiding in His Spirit as His Spirit abides in me.
Believing and living by faith in the finished work of Christ.
Thebrownblob
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Then who doesn’t remain in him and could be cast away like a dead branch Thrown in the fire?
Thebrownblob
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I’m doing my darndest
FromOffTheStreets
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We owe a debt to God for the sins we've committed against his holiness.
The Israelites continuously sacrificed animals to pay these debts.
Jesus Christ's death completely atoned for every sin committed against God. It is the "finished work."
We must accept his work as our own & seek after his righteousness & follow his commands.
Our hope is in Christ alone, not Christ + our baptism or Christ + our social works...no matter how good our works may be, they can't atone for sin. They are filthy rags.
The Israelites continuously sacrificed animals to pay these debts.
Jesus Christ's death completely atoned for every sin committed against God. It is the "finished work."
We must accept his work as our own & seek after his righteousness & follow his commands.
Our hope is in Christ alone, not Christ + our baptism or Christ + our social works...no matter how good our works may be, they can't atone for sin. They are filthy rags.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
What does the Bible say, after one decides you want him as your Savior, to do to become a Christian? In other words, here is an unsaved person, at what point does the Bible say he becomes a saved person?
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
If so, why do premillennialists await the re-establishment of the Jewish system of worship and the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem? Will animals be sacrificed again? I always figured the perfect blood of Christ would do it.
FromOffTheStreets
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Because they believe that the abomination of desolation must occur & there must be a temple for that to occur. They have no need for the sacrificial system to be implemented by the Jewish people.
The perfect sacrifice of Christ did it
FromOffTheStreets
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Revelation 20:1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. 2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, 3 and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.
4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.
Satan is not bound right now, although amillenialism thinks he is?
4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.
Satan is not bound right now, although amillenialism thinks he is?
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
There was a temple and it was destroyed by the Romans (the Abomination of Desolation) in 70 AD. That was prophesied by Jesus in Matthew 24 describing the destruction of Jerusalem.
Revelation 20 reminded the suffering saints in the 7 churches the letter was written to, that the devil has been judged and defeated by Jesus. Christ came to earth to bind the devil and to destroy sin and death (Mark 3:27;1 John 3:8; Heb. 2:14). Since the devil has been defeated, the kingdom of God has come and has been established, the church(Matt. 12:28). Satan’s defeat is associated with the inauguration of the kingdom of God.
Revelation 20 describes God’s judgment and the binding of Satan. This has already been accomplished through the "finished"work of Jesus.
FromOffTheStreets
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Thing is, it also happened in 167 bc by Antiochus epiphanies who slaughtered a pig in the sanctuary.
I think the idea of the abomination is more like this in
2 thess. 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
Future antichrist goes to the temple proclaiming to be god
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Never heard of this.
But, I'm sure this wasn't what Jesus was prophesying about. "that" generation he said would see the abomination of desolation coming would not have been born in 167 bc
Who is this....?
"and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already"? -1 John 4:3
"Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come." 1 John 2: 18 Who are the many antichrist who were there when John wrote this?
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FromOffTheStreets
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No, because that had already happened. "This generation" could mean a generation who saw these things taking place thousands of years from when he said it. Like end times.
Most of the people he was speaking to about this (the disciples) were dead before 70 ad. So they didn't see it take place.
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