religion

[Integrity]

That is your desired interpretation. In order to make your belief system work you have to denigrate the Bible as God's word given to us as a guide to salvation. Get the Bible out of the way and you're free to promote sin as not wrong in God's sight. That's just religiosity pushed by Bible thumpers. But not you. You've got it straight from God that one can do whatever one likes without harm to one's chances of spending eternity in heaven. Does it feel good? Do it, God doesn't mind. I'm sure that idea has appeal to some but for the sake of their salvation I hope they read their Bible and find out God's plan of salvation before it's too late.

I know your faulty position about my theological understanding, beliefs, and faith.

Thank you for sharing, it only benefits my testimony as a disciple of Jesus.

I will wait for @tourists24 to respond if he chooses to do so!

Love you my brother!

 

[Integrity]

Bible Gateway passage: Colossians 1:15-20 - New International Version

The Supremacy of the Son of God - The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and...

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[tourists24]

Based upon your statement it seems to me your opinion is that a person can be a disciple of the Bible but not a Disciple of Jesus.

Is that a fair understanding of your statement ?

I would say that when you are saved you are "born again" and start your journey from that point on as a disciple of Jesus and use the bible as your guide to help navigate your life. I don't worship a bible, but I put more importance in it's use than you do

 

[vantexan]

I would say that when you are saved you are "born again" and start your journey from that point on as a disciple of Jesus and use the bible as your guide to help navigate your life. I don't worship a bible, but I put more importance in it's use than you do

If you truly believe you can cast aside your Bible. God will have direct conversations with you. Ask @Integrity

 

[Integrity]

I would say that when you are saved you are "born again" and start your journey from that point on as a disciple of Jesus and use the bible as your guide to help navigate your life. I don't worship a bible, but I put more importance in it's use than you do

Do you believe that a person can be a disciple of the Bible and not a disciple of Jesus?

I place an extremely high value as to the importance of the Bible in my spiritual/religious formation.

I’ve always said that the Bible is extremely useful for instruction.

Please honestly comment on how you view yourself as placing a higher value on the Bible than “ extremely important“ as I do?

 

[Integrity]

If you truly believe you can cast aside your Bible. God will have direct conversations with you. Ask @Integrity

I do believe that God will have direct conscious contact with you if you so desire to walk with Him in this life, but I would never recommend casting aside your Bible as the Van man does in his post. He can speak to you through religious written traditions as well.

I truly believe as he does for me that God can speak to you through the writings of the Bible. God dictates the revelation of scripture scripture does not dictate the Revelation of God!

 

[tourists24]

Do you believe that a person can be a disciple of the Bible and not a disciple of Jesus?

I place an extremely high value as to the importance of the Bible in my spiritual/religious formation.

I’ve always said that the Bible is extremely useful for instruction.

Please honestly comment on how you view yourself as placing a higher value on the Bible than “ extremely important“ as I do?

I would say that only because I don't believe the bible is fallible because it was men that wrote it.

I'm not even sure what a disciple of the bible is if you aren't a disciple of Jesus

 

[Thebrownblob]

I would say that only because I don't believe the bible is fallible because it was men that wrote it.

I'm not even sure what a disciple of the bible is if you aren't a disciple of Jesus

Very true.

How would we even know about Jesus if it wasn’t for the Bible?

And if someone believes there’s so many mistakes and miss truth in the Bible, why would they follow any of it?

 

[vantexan]

I do believe that God will have direct conscious contact with you if you so desire to walk with Him in this life, but I would never recommend casting aside your Bible as the Van man does in his post. He can speak to you through religious written traditions as well.

I truly believe as he does for me that God can speak to you through the writings of the Bible. God dictates the revelation of scripture scripture does not dictate the Revelation of God!

But you decide which parts of the Bible are acceptable, which aren't. God's chosen apostle, guided by the Holy Spirit, couldn't have possibly meant that. So I'll just ignore it. I know better. God told me. That part about Jesus driving the money changers out of the temple? The writer must've made that up. My Jesus would never do that.

P.S. I don't recommend anyone throw away their Bible either. If you can't recognize someone being facetious then that might explain a lot of your thinking.

 

[rickyb]

i realized something

like the matrix, we are being lied to on a massive scale by the people who control the economy

after we are lied to, many of us repeat their lies. most of us lie to ourselves.

a few of us are concerned with the truth even if we don't know it. we will at least honestly try and find the truth.

its up to us to break the cycle of lies and be true to our religion.

The Crucifixion of Julian Assange

This is a sermon I gave on Sunday Aug. 20 in Oslo, Norway at Kulturkirken Jakob (St. James Church of Culture). Actor and film director Liv Ullmann read the scripture passages.

chrishedges.substack.com

 

[rickyb]

But you decide which parts of the Bible are acceptable, which aren't. God's chosen apostle, guided by the Holy Spirit, couldn't have possibly meant that. So I'll just ignore it. I know better. God told me. That part about Jesus driving the money changers out of the temple? The writer must've made that up. My Jesus would never do that.

P.S. I don't recommend anyone throw away their Bible either. If you can't recognize someone being facetious then that might explain a lot of your thinking.

the bible is full of contradictions. you have to choose which parts to follow.

 

[tourists24]

the bible is full of contradictions. you have to choose which parts to follow.

No it doesn’t. You tried last week to show examples and those weren’t contradicting.

 

[rickyb]

No it doesn’t. You tried last week to show examples and those weren’t contradicting.

no what happened was i showed contradictions from my presbyterian minister who graduated harvard divinity school, and then you disagreed.

 

[Thebrownblob]

no what happened was i showed contradictions from my presbyterian minister who graduated harvard divinity school, and then you disagreed.

Harvard and divinity are a contradiction

 

[tourists24]

no what happened was i showed contradictions from my presbyterian minister who graduated harvard divinity school, and then you disagreed.

Correct. That doesn’t make the Bible contradictory

 

[rickyb]

Harvard and divinity are a contradiction

one of his professors was from germany and warned chris he would be fighting christian fascists back in 1983. he was right.

 

[rickyb]

Correct. That doesn’t make the Bible contradictory

contradictions in the bible make it condradictory

 

[Thebrownblob]

one of his professors was from germany and warned chris he would be fighting christian fascists back in 1983. he was right.

Did he tell Chris there’s no such thing as a Christian fascist? They would just be fascists.

 

[Thebrownblob]

contradictions in the bible make it condradictory

Contradictory to Chris opinion there’s no contradictions. He just has a poor interpretation of what the Bible says because he has an agenda that isn’t Christian.

He has a form of godliness, but denies the power.

 

[rickyb]

Contradictory to Chris opinion there’s no contradictions. He just has a poor interpretation of what the Bible says because he has an agenda that isn’t Christian.

He has a form of godliness, but denies the power.

he sure sounds like a christian to me.