Road Runners.

[stevetheupsguy]

My last long run before my marathon in 2 weeks. The run went as planned, slow paced and long, though I did where a pair of shoes that absolutely brutalized my feet. Saucony Hurricane's, the latest upgrade. I've worn them before with no problem, but the must have low mileage life. Here's the actual view of my run compliments of my Garmin 405.

 

[Jones]

Hmm, it's your race and your plan, but hitting a 26 miler 2 weeks out is cutting it a little close imho.
Good luck though, I assume this is a local race?

 

[stevetheupsguy]

Hmm, it's your race and your plan, but hitting a 26 miler 2 weeks out is cutting it a little close imho.
Good luck though, I assume this is a local race?

If you mean local as in, this state, yes it is. Jacksonville, which is a fast flat course. I'm about a week off because I did some down time due to injury, so todays run, at the pace I ran, should prove to be helpful. 3 weeks out of Miami, earlier this year, I did a similar training run at a much faster pace. I'm just making sure I have my nutrition and hydration in order, so I don't die in the race. I'll update with the results, what ever they may be, LOL.

 

[tourists24]

Just thought I would throw a challenge out to anyone interested in this race that I am going to do in 2011.... Steve, not sure how far from home, but it is in Ga,


http://toughmudder.com/events/georgia/

 

[Jones]

Just thought I would throw a challenge out to anyone interested in this race that I am going to do in 2011.... Steve, not sure how far from home, but it is in Ga,


http://toughmudder.com/events/georgia/

Good luck with that bro, it looks like a young man's game. Too much fun for this old guy

 

[tourists24]

Good luck with that bro, it looks like a young man's game. Too much fun for this old guy

It sure does (and probably is)... just remember,,, Im not out to set any records... just loving it for what it is.... looking to try new stuff.... til Im ready for a 50 miler, this looks interesting....

 

[Cementups]

I did the Tough Mudder here in PA last May and we are looking to set up another team to do it again in April. Had so much fun and overall if you are in decent shape you can get thru it pretty easily. Great event.

 

[Jones]

It sure does (and probably is)... just remember,,, Im not out to set any records... just loving it for what it is.... looking to try new stuff.... til Im ready for a 50 miler, this looks interesting....

I gotta admit the after party looks like a blast, nothing like free beer and live music after a hard race. Reminds me a little of the Hash House runs we used to do when I was stationed in The Philippines.

 

[stevetheupsguy]

My buddy from work, a preloader, has been training to run a marathon. I've been coaching him and he decided to run the Palm Beach Marathon. He was attempting to BQ, so being 30, he needed to run 3:10.59. I drove him down to the race so he wouldn't have to stress about parking, clothes check-in and such. He planned to run between 6.45 and 7.15 minute miles, which was totally duable. I would also pace him on my road bike and have extra water, gatorade and gel packs.

Everything started off fine. He ran a seamingly effortless race, averaging 7 minute miles. He started to feel fatigue at mile 18 and really needed a push at 23. At 25.5 he collapsed and never recovered. The ambulance carted him to the medical tent where he was given "4" bags of I.V. fluids and had 2 people massaging out his legs. If he would have walked the last .7 miles, he would have finished in 3:10 I just got off the phone with him, and though he's upset, he's doing fine, though he's not looking forward to working the pre-load in the morning.

 

[Jones]

My buddy from work, a preloader, has been training to run a marathon. I've been coaching him and he decided to run the Palm Beach Marathon. He was attempting to BQ, so being 30, he needed to run 3:10.59. I drove him down to the race so he wouldn't have to stress about parking, clothes check-in and such. He planned to run between 6.45 and 7.15 minute miles, which was totally duable. I would also pace him on my road bike and have extra water, gatorade and gel packs.

Everything started off fine. He ran a seamingly effortless race, averaging 7 minute miles. He started to feel fatigue at mile 18 and really needed a push at 23. At 25.5 he collapsed and never recovered. The ambulance carted him to the medical tent where he was given "4" bags of I.V. fluids and had 2 people massaging out his legs. If he would have walked the last .7 miles, he would have finished in 3:10 I just got off the phone with him, and though he's upset, he's doing fine, though he's not looking forward to working the pre-load in the morning.

That sucks
If they had to put 4 bags in him though it sounds like he let himself get majorly dehydrated. Live and learn, at least he still has plenty of time to take another shot before Boston.

 

[stevetheupsguy]

That sucks
If they had to put 4 bags in him though it sounds like he let himself get majorly dehydrated. Live and learn, at least he still has plenty of time to take another shot before Boston.

Yeah, I'm trying to talk him into running Jax with me in 2 weeks. I told him this run could count as his training "long run" and he could taper from here. At least he found out how his body will react and he'll have time to make the necessary changes in diet/hydration.

 

[Jones]

Failing to take in enough fluid and electrolytes is a pretty common mistake in first time marathoners. He probably got all caught up in the moment and started blowing through aid stations because he was feeling good, then by the time he started falling apart it was too late. Running Jax in two weeks would be a big mistake imho, especially with him falling out like he did.

 

[whiskey]

It's very important to take fluids before the race begins. A dead giveaway to your body shutting down is lack of perspiration. And salt clearly becomes visible on your cold leathery skin. Fatigue and cramping set in. At this point, fluid consumption can be very dangerous. I. V. is a life saver. Physically he will bounce right back. Mentallly is a different story. I once had a ride in a police cruiser. Thank God he was there. But the policeman kept calling me a quitter. That wasn't any fun. I had run a 5 miler earlier in the day and then jumped into a 15.6 mile race, taking no fluids in between. Scary stuff. I crashed and burned 1 mile from the finish.

 

[stevetheupsguy]

Failing to take in enough fluid and electrolytes is a pretty common mistake in first time marathoners. He probably got all caught up in the moment and started blowing through aid stations because he was feeling good, then by the time he started falling apart it was too late. Running Jax in two weeks would be a big mistake imho, especially with him falling out like he did.

He didn't blow the stations, I was riding my bike beside him with fluids, gels and food if needed. He also took fluids at the stations. My theory is that he didn't hydrate properly prior to the race, which is WAY important. IMO, I think running Jax would help him in many ways. He can count this race as a training run, taper, and run Jax, as long as he takes care of his fluid/nitritional needs properly. Again, jmho. The medical tent personel told him that he was probably losing fluid from his respiration since the humidity was way low that day, but to the point of delirium?

It's very important to take fluids before the race begins. A dead giveaway to your body shutting down is lack of perspiration. And salt clearly becomes visible on your cold leathery skin. Fatigue and cramping set in. At this point, fluid consumption can be very dangerous. I. V. is a life saver. Physically he will bounce right back. Mentallly is a different story. I once had a ride in a police cruiser. Thank God he was there. But the policeman kept calling me a quitter. That wasn't any fun. I had run a 5 miler earlier in the day and then jumped into a 15.6 mile race, taking no fluids in between. Scary stuff. I crashed and burned 1 mile from the finish.

My normal workout on Saturday morning is a 10 mile run followed by a 40+ mile bike ride. I prepare myself pretty well for these workouts, though on occassion I have slacked on the fluid intake during the run/ride. I've gotten to the end of the ride, which includes a bridge, and started cramping, which is no fun at all.

 

[stevetheupsguy]

I ran the Jacksonville Bank marathon today in a time of 3:30.16, which re-qualifies me for Boston. Now all I have to do is sit at my computer on registration day, so I can win the race to entering. It was a beautiful day in Jax. It was mid 40ish at race start and the temp actually dropped by the time I finished. I ran with a couple of injuries that took their toll, but succeeded in finishing soundly. Because of my injuries, I decided to set out with the 3:15 pace group, and hang with them till my injururies flared up, hoping to bank enough time to finish strong. I hung with them through mile 16, at which point I slowed the pace because I was starting to hurt. I held a mid 7 to 8 minute pace for 2 more miles and was forced to slow a bit more through 19 and 20. At 21 I walked for 1/4 mile, at which time I was passed by the other 3 guys I went to the race with.

Jones, you'd love this part. The pace leader was an ultramarathoner, who is doing a 100 miler that's coming up soon. This guy ran such an even pace, that if I was 100%, I would have probably PR'd between 3:10 and 3:15. He was gabbing with us the whole way.

Another good part was the fact that a guy I've been training with BQ'd and this was his first marathon. As a matter of fact, all of the guys I went with, BQ'd, how awesome is that?

 

[Jones]

3:30?
Man, you just snuck in under the wire
Nice job Steve.

 

[stevetheupsguy]

3:30?
Man, you just snuck in under the wire
Nice job Steve.

You ain't kidding, brotha. I dragged my butt across that finish line and am gonna be a hobbling fool for a week, thank God for helper's, LOL.

 

[whiskey]

Congrats on a gutty performance. Memorable race story.
I spoke with Barbara Sicuso the other day. She is the director of registration at the BAA. She informed me that there is a new boss, Tom Grilk who has replaced Morse. And his first order of business is to insure that what just occurred with the 8 hour online sign up, will never happen again. It will be the first thing he fixes.

 

[stevetheupsguy]

Congrats on a gutty performance. Memorable race story.
I spoke with Barbara Sicuso the other day. She is the director of registration at the BAA. She informed me that there is a new boss, Tom Grilk who has replaced Morse. And his first order of business is to insure that what just occurred with the 8 hour online sign up, will never happen again. It will be the first thing he fixes.

Thanks whiskey! I hope they do something, because I'm taking the day of when registration opens. I WILL NOT whiff, this time.

 

[stevetheupsguy]

Here's the map and stats from my race. Oh yeah, I also forgot to stop my watch at the end of the race