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Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
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Running on dirt is definitely easier on your joints, most of the top road racers do a significant portion of their training off road. Blacktop isn't so bad, concrete is probably the worst.
 

tourists24

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And I "never" run on trails. Maybe I should try cross training?
I would say give it a try Steve... you never know... although I will say I think the mentality of a trail runner is much different than a road runner. Its a completely different environment. Not sure what there is in Fla. , but around here there are a lot of mountain trails. Elevation gain seems to add a certain flare to running. Of course Jones says a lot of the top runners also run road. They are fast. They have no fear of me EVER catching up to them...lol.... I simply hit the trail at my pace and enjoy the views. That's what is so great about running. There is room in it for runners like myself
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
I would say give it a try Steve... you never know... although I will say I think the mentality of a trail runner is much different than a road runner. Its a completely different environment. Not sure what there is in Fla. , but around here there are a lot of mountain trails. Elevation gain seems to add a certain flare to running. Of course Jones says a lot of the top runners also run road. They are fast. They have no fear of me EVER catching up to them...lol.... I simply hit the trail at my pace and enjoy the views. That's what is so great about running. There is room in it for runners like myself

And there are several very nice trails up your way tour. My wife and I go to different ones up there and many are along lakes and streams. there are a few down here around Atlanta but generally not as aesthetically appealing.
 

stevetheupsguy

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And there are several very nice trails up your way tour. My wife and I go to different ones up there and many are along lakes and streams. there are a few down here around Atlanta but generally not as aesthetically appealing.
And then there's sea level, though northern Florida has some nice rolling hills, but aside from some nice sand dunes and some state parks, there aren't that many places to run off road.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
And then there's sea level, though northern Florida has some nice rolling hills, but aside from some nice sand dunes and some state parks, there aren't that many places to run off road.

Spent many a mile biking around Tallahassee as a teenager. I use to bike 40 miles to Tallahassee to play tennis and then bicycle back. Tallahassee seemed like very hilly place until I moved to Atlanta.
 

stevetheupsguy

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Spent many a mile biking around Tallahassee as a teenager. I use to bike 40 miles to Tallahassee to play tennis and then bicycle back. Tallahassee seemed like very hilly place until I moved to Atlanta.
Exactly, our "hills" here would be flat in say, Pennsylvania.:happy2:
 

whiskey

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And I "never" run on trails. Maybe I should try cross training?

I steer clear of "technical courses" since I like to zone out and focus on pace rather than focus on the negotiating rugged terrain. I've had more injuries related to trail running. So my cross training only includes punching a heavy bag while listening to old Sinatra tapes. The bag workout definitely helps with upper body strength. Which you need for the long haul.
 

Jones

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I steer clear of "technical courses" since I like to zone out and focus on pace rather than focus on the negotiating rugged terrain. I've had more injuries related to trail running. So my cross training only includes punching a heavy bag while listening to old Sinatra tapes. The bag workout definitely helps with upper body strength. Which you need for the long haul.
That makes sense for a fast guy like you. A criticism that you sometimes hear leveled at the top ultra runners is that they got into into trail/ultra running because they didn't have the raw speed to be competitive on the roads. I think that's an unfair generalization but there probably is a little bit of truth to it. A 2:35 marathon won't get you anything at New York or Chicago, but combine it with some trail running skill and an an aptitude for longer distances and you'll be in the mix at Western States or the JFK50.
 

stevetheupsguy

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I'll stick with my asphalt 26.2, though I'd love to see you guys bustin it over that terrain.

Maybe I'll invite the newly single Whiskey to run Jacksonville with me on Dec 19th.
 

tourists24

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Well just got back from my first 40 miler. Interesting experience. I made it but was very disappointed in my finish time. I had some serious nausea problems from mile 19 to 30. Wasnt sure I was going to finish, but made a change in my replenishment intake and made it. Didnt help that the temperature was 83. I know Steve, cool day for you...lol...
 

Jones

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Well just got back from my first 40 miler. Interesting experience. I made it but was very disappointed in my finish time. I had some serious nausea problems from mile 19 to 30. Wasnt sure I was going to finish, but made a change in my replenishment intake and made it. Didnt help that the temperature was 83. I know Steve, cool day for you...lol...
Sorry to hear that Tourists, I really don't care for hot weather running either. I've puked during a couple ultras, both times on hot days. Good job on hanging in there.
 

stevetheupsguy

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Well just got back from my first 40 miler. Interesting experience. I made it but was very disappointed in my finish time. I had some serious nausea problems from mile 19 to 30. Wasnt sure I was going to finish, but made a change in my replenishment intake and made it. Didnt help that the temperature was 83. I know Steve, cool day for you...lol...
Well done, T24! It was in the upper 60's low 70's here for a TRI I went to WATCH this morning. All of those miles and the heat ta boot, you are the man!
 

stevetheupsguy

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ARGH, I missed signing up for Boston!!!


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whiskey

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ARGH, I missed signing up for Boston!!!


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[/QUOTIf you still want to do Boston, we can get you a number.
I've hit a small bump in the road with my (running) comeback. And according to facebook "relationship status", I've been undumped. So I got that going for me. Which is nice.
 

stevetheupsguy

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That's awesome Steve, good for Melissa! Now you just have to spring her loose from the clutches of the Gallowalkers :happy-very:
I guess I should have read up on Galloway. My Wife tells me they always use that method and NEVER graduate to straight running. I was hoping Galloway would fan the flames and now I come to find out that she loves the run/walk. WHAT HAVE I DONE???
doh!!! If you were planning on doing it, why didn't you sign up right away??
I was thinking about signing up on my route, but figured I'd wait till I got home, to register. I was shocked when I read this message. At first I thought it was closed for the evening. Then I went over to runner'sworld.com and saw how astonished the whole community was.

If you still want to do Boston, we can get you a number.
I've hit a small bump in the road with my (running) comeback. And according to facebook "relationship status", I've been undumped. So I got that going for me. Which is nice.
Please Explain!!!
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
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If you still want to do Boston, we can get you a number.
I've hit a small bump in the road with my (running) comeback. And according to facebook "relationship status", I've been undumped. So I got that going for me. Which is nice.
It appears your relationship status has a possible inverse correlation with your running status. More testing required...

I guess I should have read up on Galloway. My Wife tells me they always use that method and NEVER graduate to straight running. I was hoping Galloway would fan the flames and now I come to find out that she loves the run/walk. WHAT HAVE I DONE???
They're like a bunch of cultists, but it's better than doing nothing. Count your blessings Bro :wink2:
 

stevetheupsguy

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My Wife (Melissa) just ran her first half marathon yesterday. She finished in 3:05 and was exhausted, but glad she pulled through. She said that miles 10-13 were the toughest, though she could hear us cheering her on from the mile 12 water stop, which really helped her along. I had a loud cowbell and I was ringing it like a madman. I've already put a 13.1 sticker on her car, and she's thinking about puting a huge checkmark through it, as if to say, btdt, LOL, though she is toying with the idea of another.
 
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