Says the guy who makes doctors wages to drop a package off on a doorstep. Drivers are the biggest bunch of cry babies in the company. Oh boo boo it’s too hot.Are you really going there? I am very happy with my life that doesn’t mean I have to happy about ups contract dealings.
for longer than the other guy. Sucks to suck.See that’s where you are wrong. Clearly reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. I never said I wanted more. In fact repeatly I said that I was happy with the pay even before the contract. What I have said is a ten year guy shouldn’t make what a 90 day guy makes. Never did I say I wanted more than I was currently paid. Go back to school big guy and learn how to read.If a doctor made what I do, they did it wrong. You're in here talking about you deserve more because you've done jack
It's the comprehension that seems to have betrayed you. The 90 day guy is gonna get what you get now, you don't think that's fair, because you feel you deserve more. It's pretty simple deduction, really. You do the same job any basement-dwelling pothead gamer can do, you deserve the same pay.
Or it could mean that in my opinion that I feel the 90 day guy deserves less on the new contract while my pay remains the same. Here is the funny thing though. The company you work for both lists your job and mine as unskilled labor. And judging by your intelligence level I am pretty sure you could disappear tomorrow and they could train another imbred monkey to do your job. You don’t have to agree but your employer listing of your job does.
I don't think I'm special, I don't think I deserve more for doing the same job as the next guy. You do. I know exactly how replaceable I am, what does that have to do with anything?Or it could mean that in my opinion that I feel the 90 day guy deserves less on the new contract while my pay remains the same. Here is the funny thing though. The company you work for both lists your job and mine as unskilled labor. And judging by your intelligence level I am pretty sure you could disappear tomorrow and they could train another imbred monkey to do your job. You don’t have to agree but your employer listing of your job does.
You should strike
Oh so you are the resident message board grammar police? Kind of goes against your stance of not considering yourself special dont you think? How about this then. Is it your opinion that a guy that has worked 10 years has provided the same amount of value of services rendered as a 90 day guy doing the same job? A simple yea or no will suffice?
He can’t but he can do what I am going to do and vote no on the contract.
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Look that is not the way it was explained to me from a regional union guy. Not saying that what I was told couldn’t be wrong but I didn’t get this info from a in the hub union rep/local union guy. I was told $21 first then $2.75.
Well, first, I pointed out a misspelling, I never questioned your grammar.
Hey I hope you’re right man. That’s what I thought originally but I don’t anymore which is a big bummer
It will mosy likely be $2.75 raise or $21, whichever is higher. I'd bet most anything.
That’s what I said earlier you must have misread what I wrote
No idea man, we'll have to wait and see.
Earlier you said you were getting $21. That's it. If you've been here ten years, that's not the case, that's the point I was making. Until the language comes out, no one knows anything for sure.
I questioned your intelligence because of your inability to comprehend that the value of the pay wasn’t an issue but the value of the years of service. You still don’t quite grasp it for some reason. It still baffles me that a simple concept like that escapes you. A person that has provided 10 years of service to a company has made said company more money than a 90 day guy. I don’t even see how you can even dispute that. The fact that they do the same job is irrelevant to that fact. It’s a pretty elementary concept you make your company more money your value to said company should in theory be more. Your also ignorant comment to having spent 10 years of service as a part timer as embarrassing is making alot of assumptions of a person. What if I were to tell you that ups was a means for insurance only? Not just for me but for others. This isn’t my career big guy.I could go on about being an independent contractor and that this zombie job just is a cost effective way to provide insurance for a family of four for minimal effort and zero cost. Sure I could probably afford it without the extra effort of running a business and working at ups but why should I? Not to mention the added benefit of a easy pension on the side.You see it as embarrassing I see it as smart. And guess what I’ll let you on a little secret my liberal friend. I could easily put in for your job and do it tomorrow. If I did though I would take a pay cut and sacrifice time with my wife and kids in the process.
That’s what you just said to the other guy though. Either $21 or 2.75, whatever’s higher. If im at $18 the $2.75 would bring me to $20.75 so I’d get bumped to $21.
This is how it was broken down to me.
I get the concept just fine, I'm not disputing the concept, I'm disputing its application here. You're not a skilled machinist who's created value, you're just a PTer who's pushed boxes. You don't provide anything forty 90-day PTers over 10 years haven't provided. I'm just a driver, I get it, I don't need that pointed out. I'm far from liberal, I just don't value your contribution, and clearly you don't either given that you minimize your position as described by a minimal effort means to insurance. Most business owners only here for that don't give a
what the next guy makes, they don't even notice. I don't care how long you or anyone has been here as a PTer, you all look the same to me.
