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Sup touching my packages?
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Turdferguson
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When you get hurt, the company will pay for it but management is gonna ask why you didn't follow the safe work methods to cover themselves. Maintaining egress, the 8 keys, etc. So turn it around on them now and insist that you don't do anything unsafe.
If anything makes you feel uncomfortable, ask as loudly as you can (without yelling) so everyone can hear, "Why are you trying to make me work unsafely?" Stop the belt when you need to and insist that your work area is not safe if you need to.
You've gotta know where the line is between being a fantastic/fast/accurate loader and when you're getting unreasonable amount of
shoved down your throat. Management will never tell you. The company will not protect you when it's trying to push for maximum production. So you've gotta look out for yourself.
Rack em
Made the Podium
First thing is you need to file for a sup working, or else they will expect you to be able to load like that all the time. Sup's shouldn't touch packages period, let alone stack you in a car creating egress issues. And as others have said don't sign anything and if they press the matter then ask for your steward ASAP. If the steward is gone then get the FT steward or wait until the next day.
Work at a quick but safe pace, if you have to stack out then stack out and put it away when you can. We are human beings, not robots. And the PC's are only so big so if you can't fit everything in the car in a safe manner then leave out what you have to and ups can figure out how to shuttle the package(s) down later. Just don't leave out early stops or businesses.
Work at a quick but safe pace, if you have to stack out then stack out and put it away when you can. We are human beings, not robots. And the PC's are only so big so if you can't fit everything in the car in a safe manner then leave out what you have to and ups can figure out how to shuttle the package(s) down later. Just don't leave out early stops or businesses.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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What would happen if the union, for once, really clamped down on those drivers who start early and/or work through their lunch and breaks?
Our center manager is threatening to have those drivers who regularly come in off the road early (one hour or more) either change their paycode to 05 or work on the inside until thy have reached the 8 hour plus 45 minute point which, for us, is 1815.
Indecisi0n
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Was so hoping this thread had pictures.
retiredTxfeeder
cap'n crunch
Since the sup is at least partially loading your PC, who is to say she isn't the one who put the misloads in there? You can't. Could she be setting you up? Possibly. Nothing would suprise me about this outfit. That's why you and only you should touch the content going into your PC. Well, that, and they shouldn't be touching volume, unless for demonstration purposes. File.
WinsiDildy
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This person may think they're helping you...but they aren't.When you get hurt, the company will pay for it but management is gonna ask why you didn't follow the safe work methods to cover themselves. Maintaining egress, the 8 keys, etc. So turn it around on them now and insist that you don't do anything unsafe.
If anything makes you feel uncomfortable, ask as loudly as you can (without yelling) so everyone can hear, "Why are you trying to make me work unsafely?" Stop the belt when you need to and insist that your work area is not safe if you need to.
You've gotta know where the line is between being a fantastic/fast/accurate loader and when you're getting unreasonable amount of
The company will not protect you when it's trying to push for maximum production. So you've gotta look out for yourself.
If your work area is not safe, go find your safety committee's concerns log and write the mechanical defaults in your area. If there aren't any - then it's unsafe because of you. Egress as a safety concern is your responsibility. Lifting and Lowering, Slips and Falls, Pushing and Pulling, that is all on you. Management trains, Union uses. I've been around three years. If I wanted to, I could walk around my building and discipline people left and right for not following the eight keys to L&L. I don't, because that's stupid and counterproductive. I've tried talking to people and it doesn't work 99% of the time. UPSers are stubborn ass holes most of the time - both management and union. Don't be just another
ting on the problem. Worry about yourself and taking care of your problems. I don't believe you have to sign the misload sheets, but filing on a supervisor for loading your irreg's seems crappy. Ask them first why they are doing it - there are a few supervisors out there who are doing it as preventative safety maintenance. I know I used to when I was in operations. When my guys had egress problems from irregs, I would clear/organize the slides for them. I had other
to be doing, but I wanted them to know I was working hard WITH and FOR them. If it was a slow day, low volume, we were easily going to accomplish downtime, or if I saw someone was struggling and having an off day, then I'd always jump in the trailer and unload with them for a few minutes. Talk to them, see if I could figure out what was going on, maybe move a double up over there with them if I found out something pertinent to their physical condition (maybe they are sore because their other job is pouring concrete, or they are an athlete and had a competition the night before...etc). Work with your supervisor. If they are incapable of working WITH you, then you should resort to filing. But don't make yourself out to be a problem as a means of being possessive of your 'work'. The supervisor working grievances really should be reserved for operations/sorts that are habitual offenders of having the plan that supervisors will work certain areas regardless of attendance/staffing issues.
Also, don't be selfish as a worker. Help your coworkers, not only in your area, but all around the building. Yes, supervisors ARE your coworkers too.
WinsiDildy
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And ignore this fool. The chances that anyone in management is sabotaging production results as a means to issue discipline - discipline that isn't even concrete - is retarded.
Like most here have said, production is king. Management takes it in the ass from their boss on a regular basis because they don't achieve production targets. They won't sabotage themselves in an intentionally deceitful manner (in 99% of cases, at least).
trickpony1
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burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
This person may think they're helping you...but they aren't.
If your work area is not safe, go find your safety committee's concerns log and write the mechanical defaults in your area. If there aren't any - then it's unsafe because of you. Egress as a safety concern is your responsibility. Lifting and Lowering, Slips and Falls, Pushing and Pulling, that is all on you. Management trains, Union uses. I've been around three years. If I wanted to, I could walk around my building and discipline people left and right for not following the eight keys to L&L. I don't, because that's stupid and counterproductive. I've tried talking to people and it doesn't work 99% of the time. UPSers are stubborn ass holes most of the time - both management and union. Don't be just another
Worry about yourself and taking care of your problems. I don't believe you have to sign the misload sheets, but filing on a supervisor for loading your irreg's seems crappy. Ask them first why they are doing it - there are a few supervisors out there who are doing it as preventative safety maintenance. I know I used to when I was in operations. When my guys had egress problems from irregs, I would clear/organize the slides for them. I had other
Work with your supervisor. If they are incapable of working WITH you, then you should resort to filing. But don't make yourself out to be a problem as a means of being possessive of your 'work'. The supervisor working grievances really should be reserved for operations/sorts that are habitual offenders of having the plan that supervisors will work certain areas regardless of attendance/staffing issues.
Also, don't be selfish as a worker. Help your coworkers, not only in your area, but all around the building. Yes, supervisors ARE your coworkers too.
Any discipline has to be done with a steward present unless you sign a waiver that has to be presented to the union. You can file on having any punishment removed, safety violation on egress, and all hours worked by supervisor.
Matty_lawn
Poopin' on the clock
338 pph? I max out around 200 if I ate my wheaties in the morning.
Well, we are talking about UPS supervisors here. Wouldn't put it past some of them. Not all, but some.
Jkloc420
Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
you should file grivences on all of it. file a grievance on the write up and file a grievance on the supervisor working. part of the 8 keys is you actually have some form of a pathway. I'm surprised the driver hasn't said anything or done anything about this person. which isn't the drivers fault but they usually let the supervisors know.
UPS Preloader
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Do not sign the form. Don't even put RTS on the form as it acknowledges you read and/or received the form. Find out what the penalty for supervisors working is in your supplement and demand to be made whole. If they won't, file the grievance.
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