TENTATIVE AGREEMENT REACHED AT UPS

HubSnakeWrangler

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22.3s are not ground package drivers, in any capacity.
I don't really know how to explain it further. 22.3 were equal to 22.4 pay wise. In my opinion this will not go down well with 22.3 combos. I'm not ignorant to the fact drivers always made more. You definitely work harder than I do. When I went combo it was still 1 easy/1 hard shift. Now there are combos who work inside who only work in hot as hell buildings doing 2x the work loading/unloading.
 
I don't really know how to explain it further. 22.3 were equal to 22.4 pay wise. In my opinion this will not go down well with 22.3 combos. I'm not ignorant to the fact drivers always made more. You definitely work harder than I do. When I went combo it was still 1 easy/1 hard shift. Now there are combos who work inside who only work in hot as hell buildings doing 2x the work loading/unloading.
Right, I get your point, my point is that they were far less of a combo job and nothing more than a second rate package car driver. Meaning, they are now getting compensated appropriately for the job they perform. You always knew the rate for job you perform, unless you ran ground exceptions and then you were paid appropriately.

Basically, they never were paid appropriately. You always have been.
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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I did summer vacation coverage last year then tried to qualify in October but got the flu, and was just flat out bad at it lol, closest I scratched was .26 over ish. Was good at the driving part but wasn't coherent in the routing and remembering the numbers
I don't know what kind of car you drive but try stuffing 20-25 stops in to an Altima, even one with all the bells and whistles. Then try to imagine driving back and forth from the drop off point 5-10 times during your shift. Add the wear and tear on your vehicle and you will find that it would be much easier to be a jumper again this year.
 

HubSnakeWrangler

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Right, I get your point, my point is that they were far less of a combo job and nothing more than a second rate package car driver. Meaning, they are now getting compensated appropriately for the job they perform. You always knew the rate for job you perform, unless you ran ground exceptions and then you were paid appropriately.

Basically, they never were paid appropriately. You always have been.
I think we agree on the same things. I'm just saying 22.3's may feel dissatisfied with this contract when 22.4's knew their pay as well when they accepted their position. Anyway, back to my rum and cokes. I've mouthed off too much already. 😆 I appreciate your responses, thanks.
 
0.25 yr is a joke and explains RTW states

you are counting being force by the government raising of minimum wage and inflationary pressures that allow McDonalds workers to make $20 an hour to force a $21 minimum as a win…it’s not. anytime a union job is comparable to minimum wages is an absolute joke…

…and it $6.20 total from years 2-5 that won‘t even cover what rent, insurance, energy prices, and other expenses will be going up.

gtfoh Boomer
What kind of insurance do you get at Mickey Ds
 

scoot_

Active Member
I don't know what kind of car you drive but try stuffing 20-25 stops in to an Altima, even one with all the bells and whistles. Then try to imagine driving back and forth from the drop off point 5-10 times during your shift. Add the wear and tear on your vehicle and you will find that it would be much easier to be a jumper again this year.
That sounds pretty sucky lol. The two years my center has done them they don't seem to abuse them. Preload will organize them by number on the floor after we move the package cars outside, 1000s 2000s etc. After the regular sort but before air. And unless they got a truck or cargo space it's "go out into the sticks, finish, maybe help a regular driver then go home"
It'll probably be different this year.

With the pay bump it might not be bad to tap those 15 hr days as a jumper.
 

charm299

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This looks like a decent contract to me. $2.75 raise? I remember the contracts in the past we were happy to get $1.00 a year. Got rid of 22.4, that's a big one. Somebody working full-time hours should get the same pay and benefits as a full-time driver. I figured the cost would be $30B, that's right in the middle of the initial demands from both parties. UPS puts a certain amount of money on the table, they don't care about how the Teamsters divide it up between PT and FT. I'm not expecting a pension increase as a retiree. Once you quit moving boxes or pay union dues you are forgot about.
Yeah, a dollar a year raise when inflation was under 2 %
 

Dub Brown Eye

Active Member
If it’s 2.75 8/1/23 and an additional 7.50 over the rest, that’s a yes

If it’s 2.75 in the first year but 4.75 over the remainder, that’s a hell no.
Exactly!!! I think people are reading it incorrectly. We need clarification on this one.

Also why arent the supplements anywhere to be found if they agreed to those first? I saw a leaked Louisville one.. Not sure it was accurate. But WAY better than our previous central state.
 

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Historic wage increases. Existing full- and part-time UPS Teamsters will get $2.75 more per hour in 2023, and $7.50 more per hour over the length of the contract.
Existing part-timers will be raised up to no less than $21 per hour immediately, and part-time seniority workers earning more under a market rate adjustment would still receive all new general wage increases.
General wage increases for part-time workers will be double the amount obtained in the previous UPS Teamsters contract — and existing part-time workers will receive a 48 percent average total wage increase over the next five years.
Wage increases for full-timers will keep UPS Teamsters the highest paid delivery drivers in the nation, improving their average top rate to $49 per hour.
Current UPS Teamsters working part-time would receive longevity wage increases of up to $1.50 per hour on top of new hourly raises, compounding their earnings.
New part-time hires at UPS would start at $21 per hour and advance to $23 per hour.
All UPS Teamster drivers classified as 22.4s would be reclassified immediately to Regular Package Car Drivers and placed into seniority, ending the unfair two-tier wage system at UPS.
Safety and health protections, including vehicle air conditioning and cargo ventilation. UPS will equip in-cab A/C in all larger delivery vehicles, sprinter vans, and package cars purchased after Jan. 1, 2024. All cars get two fans and air induction vents in the cargo compartments.
All UPS Teamsters would receive Martin Luther King Day as a full holiday for the first time.
No more forced overtime on Teamster drivers’ days off. Drivers would keep one of two workweek schedules and could not be forced into overtime on scheduled off-days.
UPS Teamster part-timers will have priority to perform all seasonal support work using their own vehicles with a locked-in eight-hour guarantee. For the first time, seasonal work will be contained to five weeks only from November-December.
 

PPH_over_9000

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I think we agree on the same things. I'm just saying 22.3's may feel dissatisfied with this contract when 22.4's knew their pay as well when they accepted their position. Anyway, back to my rum and cokes. I've mouthed off too much already. 😆 I appreciate your responses, thanks.

I'm not trying to pull you back so feel free to enjoy your rum and cokes--

thing is, though, 22.4's knew our payscale but we were outright lied to about our job duties. There was no inside work. There was no combination employment. We drove full-time and were forced in for more 6th punches than any RPCD in the center. We did the same thing as RPCDs day-in and day-out, but because the company played classification games we weren't compensated equally.
 
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