Tentative contract

[Brownslave688]

It all depends on if I’m reading it correctly or not, decides if I think it’s fair enough or not

At $18 an hour after over 10 years, I will for sure be getting a bump to $21 an hour as that’s the new minimum

Now do I get a $2.75 raise also on top of that? With a $1.50 on top of that would get a ‘yes’ vote from me

But if the $2.75 raise is added to my $18 and I go to $21 and then only get $1.50 raise from there is a ‘no’ for me

this is true. if the 2.75 and 1.50 are added together with the 21 it's decent


PT full scale would simplify so much

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

PTers that aren't hired yet are making out ok. The ones already working here for 10-15 years are getting the shaft

Relative to newer PTers, so are top rate drivers.

 

[Cheesypurpletees]

Retirement is boring. Most guys die after that.

They only die if they retire too old

 

[Started on Paper]

"Existing full and part-time employees will get a raise of $2.75 in 2023 and $7.50 more per hour over the length of the contract."

The way I read that language is everyone currently employed will get a minimum of $7.50 by the end of this contract.

 

[charm299]

Existing full and part-time employees will get a raise of $2.75 in 2023 and $7.50 more per hour over the length of the contract.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I have to go easy at my age

What's going on?

 

[bowhnterdon]

Just got a Letter stating my HC was going up.. again. Now it’s $806 a month. I wish I could Vote… Retiree’s under the Bus…

 

[R1wonder]

So this fight to the end was primarily over part time starting wage and long time part timer catch-up wages? And the best SOB could do was $21/start (which is less than some centers pay to start already) and $1.50/hour for ALL senior part timers? So the guy who has been a part timer with say 5 years seniority gets a $1.50/hour bump and another guy who has 15 years seniority gets the same $1.50/hour? It's a flat $1.50/hour no matter how many years? That blows for those who have been around for several years. The pay gap for long time part-timers and new hires continues to shrink under this proposal.

A new hire will be hired after the contract ratified and won’t get contract raises . You’ll get 21 plus 2.75 plus a yearly contract raise . As far as im
Gathering from a new hire . 21 to start then 23 an hour . After that idk … is it 50 cents a year still if you’re not in a contract ?

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

A new hire will be hired after the contract ratified and won’t get contract raises . You’ll get 21 plus 2.75 plus a yearly contract raise . As far as im
Gathering from a new hire . 21 to start then 23 an hour . After that idk … is it 50 cents a year still if you’re not in a contract ?

There's legitimately no way of knowing until it's all spelled out in the contract for us to read.

 

[R1wonder]

Why does everybody think just because they have a few years of seniority as part that they just get boat loads of raises ? This is the way the world has always operated . Minimum wage has gone up . It was 5.25 when I got my first job . It was 8.50 when I started in 2004, I’m ft now . I’m not crying that I didn’t start at 21. So do I get an extra 12.50 raise ? Cuz they start at 21 and I started at 8.50. For friend sakes ppl

 

[Up In Smoke]

Wall Street doesn't like our new contract

Eff em
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A large number of $190.00 calls were closed.

 

[Brownslave688]

B

Relative to newer PTers, so are top rate drivers.

But top rate drivers haven’t been left behind for 30 years

 

[Started on Paper]

B

But top rate drivers haven’t been left behind for 30 years

As it should be

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

B

But top rate drivers haven’t been left behind for 30 years

You want to make the big bucks you got to go out driving

 

[Just A UPS Guy]

B

But top rate drivers haven’t been left behind for 30 years

They all had a voice.

 

[MIX_MASTER_ICE]

Why does everybody think just because they have a few years of seniority as part that they just get boat loads of raises ? This is the way the world has always operated . Minimum wage has gone up . It was 5.25 when I got my first job . It was 8.50 when I started in 2004, I’m ft now . I’m not crying that I didn’t start at 21. So do I get an extra 12.50 raise ? Cuz they start at 21 and I started at 8.50. For friend sakes ppl

Maybe because that's what SOB was "campaigning" on during these negotiations and one of the primary reasons this agreement took this long. PT starting wage and senior part timer catch up pay was two of the biggies. I don't think "up to" $1.50/hr is exactly a big win. I look at it as more like throwing the senior PT people the bone. And what exactly does "up to $1.50 mean? You have 30 years seniority you get the full $1.50? A nickle less per year less than 30? Come on, man.

 

[saintrick]

It all depends on if I’m reading it correctly or not, decides if I think it’s fair enough or not

At $18 an hour after over 10 years, I will for sure be getting a bump to $21 an hour as that’s the new minimum

Now do I get a $2.75 raise also on top of that? With a $1.50 on top of that would get a ‘yes’ vote from me

But if the $2.75 raise is added to my $18 and I go to $21 and then only get $1.50 raise from there is a ‘no’ for me

The last scenario is what will happen. Only change the 1.50 to 1.00 for only having 10 years.

 

[Karma...]

sean and carol did a great job negotiating this contract. sean addressed the inequalities of the pters his prior union heads had allowed. I hope that sean is equally as successful with amazon and federal express......time to equal the playing field. was any monies allocated for health and welfare ? how much per employee hour is it now ?....whats on the future horizon ?

 

[saintrick]

Some badass career preloaders in the making so excited

Over $42 by the end of the contract. Has many or as little hours as I want. Overtime after 5 endless 6th and 7th punch opportunities. Whatever job I want to do.
I'm good.

 

[PoirotAtUPS]

In all fairness, you have to keep in mind what "historic" refers to. With the amount of changed language and the length of improvements it really is, when compared to previous contracts, really since the 80s. A 48% improvement to starting wage, regardless of area standards, is a historic improvement. $7.50 over the life of the contract is a historic total. A/C and getting UPS to dismantle the two-tier system of 22.4s is historic.

Not that I don't get your point, or even agree with you at a fundamental level, I'm just saying it's all relative. $7.50 is about 18% and underwhelming, especially with only 6.5% up front, but I get it with the PT improvements. Also, we've yet to see the HWP package. Either way, there are 340k votes and that many opportunities to express an opinion.

The devil is in the details. But it sounds like this contract brings closer to when UPS paid better than the market for part timers - like in the 1990s. I’m not sure how many folks were at the low $16.xx per hour (probably not many) but now everyone PT will be over $20 per hour and will grow towards $30 over the life of the contract. Gotta say I like the direction this is headed.