The Ultimate "Why Orion Is A Failure" thread......
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burrheadd
KING Of GIFS
“mines” is that Ebonics
Analbumcover
ControlPkgs
My favorite thing that Orion does is push businesses AFTER a very long-winded country loop that has absolutely no businesses or commit times. Why? Why does it have me delivering to businesses after 5pm but have me visit that alpaca farm at 1pm?
A nearby center is currently firing drivers for service failures due to Orion compliance. When one of our drivers asked management at the PCM about compliance our center manager simply said "just use your best judgement." However, they're riding a lot of the younger drivers for being way over Orion and their SPORH tanking because they had to break to make service commitments.
This company really is something.
A nearby center is currently firing drivers for service failures due to Orion compliance. When one of our drivers asked management at the PCM about compliance our center manager simply said "just use your best judgement." However, they're riding a lot of the younger drivers for being way over Orion and their SPORH tanking because they had to break to make service commitments.
This company really is something.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
If the company really cared about missed businesses they’d put a 1700 commit on every address that’s CIR
sailfish
Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
How can that even stand? That place becomes a bigger joke by the day.
sailfish
Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
I think just nobody pays that much attention to you.
Donnybowhunter
Well-Known Member
I am a dailey offender of not following Orion. I average 62% of orion trace.my supervisor let's me get away with it, because I will average 44 miles under . Orion is so wrong for my route. It makes no sense. I average 190 miles a day and 60 stops.
Donnybowhunter
Well-Known Member
Orion is an ass****.
a911scanner
Well-Known Member
As a cover/utility driver, I simply will not follow ORION on the routes I know.
If I did, we would lose 90% of our pick-ups within 60 days, because one day ORION has you pick them up 90 minutes before the scheduled pick-up time, the next day on time, then the next day 90 minutes later.
Our business was built on reliability, especially in the "on-time" context. Businesses that ship with anyone want to know they can rely on a provider doing a pick-up at a reliable time every single business day.
No reliable time, go to the shipper that is reliable. Therefore, I am a service provider that our customers can count on. Every day, I am within the window of scheduled pick-up times no matter what ORION says.
Even though there is some "doubling" of miles doing a specific "pick-up" route within the route, I usually beat the miles anyway. So "friend" ORION.
If I did, we would lose 90% of our pick-ups within 60 days, because one day ORION has you pick them up 90 minutes before the scheduled pick-up time, the next day on time, then the next day 90 minutes later.
Our business was built on reliability, especially in the "on-time" context. Businesses that ship with anyone want to know they can rely on a provider doing a pick-up at a reliable time every single business day.
No reliable time, go to the shipper that is reliable. Therefore, I am a service provider that our customers can count on. Every day, I am within the window of scheduled pick-up times no matter what ORION says.
Even though there is some "doubling" of miles doing a specific "pick-up" route within the route, I usually beat the miles anyway. So "friend" ORION.
Analbumcover
ControlPkgs
Unless it results in a complete service failure, I will follow Orion to a tee. Like our senior-most driver told me, Orion has made so much money for me since it was implemented, I'm doing loop-de-loops for hours.
On the bright side, due to the volume increase and Orion idiocy, my center has been forced to add several brand new bid routes this year, forcing them to qualify more RPCDs for cover work.
Analbumcover
ControlPkgs
I asked my shop steward and he said that forced Orion compliance is no longer explicitly stated, expected or enforced but management also won't say it that it is. It's a gray area that's "on you" if you mess up by following Orion. If you ask management you'll just get the "use your best judgement" response.
a911scanner
Well-Known Member
I hope that those of you that follow ORION nearly 100% continue to do so. Maybe they will eventually see the inefficiencies of their futile plan and turn RDO back on (doubt it).
I know you will make more money than me over the course of a year doing so. But I just cannot bring myself to waste that much time out there because the plan is idiotic & stupid. Yes, I make less money... but I'm home resting & eating dinner before you. To each their own.
I know you will make more money than me over the course of a year doing so. But I just cannot bring myself to waste that much time out there because the plan is idiotic & stupid. Yes, I make less money... but I'm home resting & eating dinner before you. To each their own.
Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
lol and my boss keeps trying to convince me I should have no trouble being under 9.5 with 220 miles and 80 stops
Bluefootedoobie
Damage Inc.
Halfway through that video-I stopped watching; that guy is looking out for his own ass and is very, very inexperienced and wrong about a great deal of many, many things.
Poop Head
Judge me.
Do you guys have Orion, where you're at?
gman042
Been around the block a few times
It did not even take me that long. The moment the he ran off that ridiculous number of possibilities that it took to do 120 stops I was like "nope". There are exactly 120 ways to run off 120 stops.... my way.
I can do my route in 10 hours. It takes the youngsters in our center following orion exactly that long to do my route....if they cut it in half.
orion has you stroking cardboard all day long searching for stops and digging them off the shelves at the back of the truck. Many times going out of your way to run them off. Why? Why do that when you will be right back in that area later in the day?
orion will have me criss-crossing my self all day long. It has me driving all over myself. Why? Why not simply run a clean straight trace and never drive over yourself. It can be done as I do it every day.
Doing time
Well-Known Member
Already working 52-54 hours a week without doing dumb Orion stuff. Don’t have any money problems.
no_map_needed
Knowledge is key, Experience is power.
Orion will only work 100% if you're delivering by helicopter and in some cases you might run out fuel.
OrioN
double tap o da horn dooshbag
Yeah these OrioN sellers probably supplied their "travelling salesman program" to other companies, since I'll see similarities on the FXG side as well as some Amazon DSPs routes.
(other threads have confirmed that when we were discussing dynamic route whatever it's called over there)
I was covering a route that I thought was easy; it's like a grid of streets...
I counted over a dozen times my GPS unit said that same street name over the past 2 hours of driving around in circles.
@Indecisi0n , nice neighborhood btw, LoL
Follow OrioN, you're hourly until this text shows up on your diad:
