The Ultimate "Why Orion Is A Failure" thread......

[BadIdeaGuy]

I am. You want to have a COBAL code off??

Dinosaur. Everybody knows assembler is where it's at.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

That's exactly what they want, eliminate driver knowledge and have mindless clones behind the wheel

More like:

They want (easily replaceable) mindless management clones, that sit behind a desk.


Even the long term veteran supes, are wallowing in that "sea of disbelief".

They thought, they offered a tangible benefit to the company.


They thought wrong....

 

[BestMgrEver]

another useless thread *rolls eyes *

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

another useless thread *rolls eyes *

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

another useless thread *rolls eyes *

What a useful comment.

 

[oldngray]

Bestsup is now a mgr?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Bestsup is now a mgr?

She has that nice Spanish booty.

 

[oldngray]

She has that nice Spanish booty.

Kardashian level?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Kardashian level?

Almost

 

[burrheadd]

Bestsup is now a mgr?

affirmative action is alive and well

 

[trickpony1]

affirmative action is alive and well

...or she shook her booty for the right person?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

...or she shook her booty for the right person?

Perhaps

Spoiler

 

[zubenelgenubi]

another useless thread *rolls eyes *

Useless... Like Orion!

Amirite?

 

[KOG72]

I'm not a math guy... But, after a little Google research. A route of 200 stops would have this many different ways to run it,

51476250067707216486487940160200993378605462690538824117424529787961666186325979299168297759488246475782024298753387060





That's not a joke. That's from some calculations website. So it must be true..

Spoiler

you are a genius

 

[iowa boy]

I will happily oblige.

I agree. They want me to be a mindless clone, for 62.7 cents per minute, I can be a very happy mindless clone.

It is very freeing to blindly follow orion, no thinking, no guessing, just drive the truck from point a to point b, deliver package, drive to point c,... and do this over and over all day.

 

[BestMgrEver]

Bestsup is now a mgr?

I've been a manager since late October last year. Where have you been??

 

[BestMgrEver]

Almost

And I didn't pay a dime for mines.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

And I didn't pay a dime for mines.

Barter system?

 

[JustDeliverIt]

I will happily oblige.

I agree. They want me to be a mindless clone, for 62.7 cents per minute, I can be a very happy mindless clone.

It is very freeing to blindly follow orion, no thinking, no guessing, just drive the truck from point a to point b, deliver package, drive to point c,... and do this over and over all day.

I completely agree. It is frustrating at times, common sense and driver knowledge being disregarded. But that's how they want it. And then they're surprised when it turns out like it does. Oh well, just WAD.

 

[Ou812fu]

If we assume that the optimal order for delivering a route will be running it in segments of straight business deliveries, straight pickups, and straight residential deliveries, you are correct (and to be extra fair to your idea, maybe we should add straight next day air to the start there).

Even if we don't throw anything 'interesting" into that mix like placard pickups that are earlier in the day than you'd finish your last business delivery...

That solution is clearly not the optimal solution for delivering a route in almost all cases. It isn't even close. Have next day air in an area that you'd normally spend a lot of time and miles getting to, and it can be your last air stop, and you can knock out all the nearby deliveries after making that air stop so you don't need to backtrack 20 minutes later in your day? Sorry, those additional deliveries are mixed business and commercial. So uhh, we'll just deliver the business and then backtrack later for 4 residential stops. Because we're running straight businesses. Or maybe that area is all residential. So we go to the first business, bypassing those 4 residential stops, and then spend 20 minutes later in the day to back track for no reason.

So maybe you improve on the idea and find an approach to when it makes sense to insert resis into that order of businesses, and insert pickups in there in a smarter way, et cetera. And you do it in a way that is, computationally speaking, reasonable based on our current level of technology. That approach is literally what ORION already is (except, worse at solving the problem we really want to solve, because the framework behind ORION is way more robust than what we're describing here).

Robust isn't the word, majorly flawed is, and not to mention a complete waste of money. Ups will never gain the money back spent on it.