Union dues amount different every week

[TheKid]

You pay the same rate because you get the same benefits....at least in my local. My dues are $90.00 per month.....3x my hourly rate.

 

[abc123]

I make $10/hour and am guaranteed 17.5 hours. So, $175x4=$700/month. I pay $25 per month in union dues. That is 3.5% of my pay. A driver who makes $30/hour is guaranteed 40 hours/week so 30x40=1200x4=$4800/month. They pay $75 per month. That is 1.6% of their pay. Once again it's not a lot, so I don't really care, I just don't understand why it's not proportionate.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

I paid 47/mo PT , then it went up to 49/mo. I went FT and dues here in NE have always been 66, even when I was in progression 2006-2008.

P.S. not every driver or FT person makes 30/hr. Some are in progression, some 22.3, some covers make a different rate in regions, casuals... etc.

 

[Babagounj]

try this...become a union steward, no dues

 

[abc123]

try this...become a union steward, no dues

LOL. That's all right, I'd rather just pay my $5/week. No offense at all to stewards, most do a great job, I just wouldn't want to do it.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

try this...become a union steward, no dues

I was under the impression that in most regions stewards pay dues and do not get them back...

 

[TheKid]

try this...become a union steward, no dues

I am there....

 

[TheKid]

I make $10/hour and am guaranteed 17.5 hours. So, $175x4=$700/month. I pay $25 per month in union dues. That is 3.5% of my pay. A driver who makes $30/hour is guaranteed 40 hours/week so 30x40=1200x4=$4800/month. They pay $75 per month. That is 1.6% of their pay. Once again it's not a lot, so I don't really care, I just don't understand why it's not proportionate.

Because you are not "earning " as much for the union. Basically, I am paying for you.

 

[JonFrum]

Abc, you need to call/email/write your Local Union dues department for the correct formula for your dues and the deduction schedule. Your first few regular dues payments may have been high because of a requirement to be paid up in advance. Something like that is good to know, so when you leave UPS and get a withdrawal card from the union, you can ask for a refund of those dues.
Having said that, $22/mo sounds about right. HERE, we have a minimum flat rate of $22 + $4(special assessment)=$26/mo, until your hourly rate reaches $11/hour. At that point the 2.5x formula starts.

A Withdrawal Card stops you from being obligated to pay dues from that point foreward. It doesn't get you a refund of previously paid dues.

I paid 47/mo PT , then it went up to 49/mo. I went FT and dues here in NE have always been 66, even when I was in progression 2006-2008.

P.S. not every driver or FT person makes 30/hr. Some are in progression, some 22.3, some covers make a different rate in regions, casuals... etc.

Maybe full-time dues in your Local have been $66, but every Local is entitled to charge more than the minimum 2.5 times your hourly pay rate, and many do. My Local, close to yours, charges $42 part-time and $90 full-time, with high-seniority part-timers paying the full-time dues rate. Part-time Initiation Fee is $200; Full-time is $500. Maybe your dues are less because you have really high Initiation Fees?

 

[greivinarticles]

is this really different in every state here in FL our union dues are half our hourly rate each week (I.E. $10 an hour is $5 union dues a week $11 an hour would be $5.50 a week.
just simply call your local and have them explain it to you

 

[hondo]

Abc, you need to call/email/write your Local Union dues department for the correct formula for your dues and the deduction schedule. Your first few regular dues payments may have been high because of a requirement to be paid up in advance. Something like that is good to know, so when you leave UPS and get a withdrawal card from the union, you can ask for a refund of those dues.
Having said that, $22/mo sounds about right. HERE, we have a minimum flat rate of $22 + $4(special assessment)=$26/mo, until your hourly rate reaches $11/hour. At that point the 2.5x formula starts.

A Withdrawal Card stops you from being obligated to pay dues from that point foreward. It doesn't get you a refund of previously paid dues.

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Here, dues are deducted on a schedule to be paid up 3 months in advance. Payments this month (October 2010) cover hours worked in January 2011. When my employment terminates this month, I will certainly seek reimbursement of dues paid for months I will not work (Nov &.Dec 2010, Jan 2011). Unless, of course, I seek reinstatement through the grievance process.

 

[Kevin211]

I believe that if you make less then 11.00 an hour your dues are a flat 25.00 a month if over 11.00 then it's 2.5'x. You will have to check the International by-laws and constitution for clarifacation. But i did see it in there....going to bed or i would give you all the info.

Where in Pa are you?

If there is any on from Parsippany here they can tell you because they have a notice hanging about this on there bulletten board.

 

[FAVREFAN]

I make $10/hour and am guaranteed 17.5 hours. So, $175x4=$700/month. I pay $25 per month in union dues. That is 3.5% of my pay. A driver who makes $30/hour is guaranteed 40 hours/week so 30x40=1200x4=$4800/month. They pay $75 per month. That is 1.6% of their pay. Once again it's not a lot, so I don't really care, I just don't understand why it's not proportionate.

My point exactly.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

My point exactly.

What about face value of health/dental benefits? Are yours "proportionately" valued at 1/2 or 1/3 of a drivers value as well? If not they should be - and your dues should be as well. Does that sound better?

PT's have the better deal, they get $1000/mo health and dental value while being able to persue whatever they want for lucrative careers. Believe me I've done both, and PT is the better deal and I fully regret going FT.

 

[abc123]

What about face value of health/dental benefits? Are yours "proportionately" valued at 1/2 or 1/3 of a drivers value as well? If not they should be - and your dues should be as well. Does that sound better?

PT's have the better deal, they get $1000/mo health and dental value while being able to persue whatever they want for lucrative careers. Believe me I've done both, and PT is the better deal and I fully regret going FT.

Good point, except I wish I could opt out of the health benefits for higher pay. Being a full-time college student, I'm eligible to be on my dad's health insurance and my mom's health insurance. However, I do get $3000/year for tuition money, so maybe that evens it out?

 

[NY11725]

I am having same issue, confronting shop steward today

 

[abc123]

With my issue, I concluded that I was paying back dues. I transferred and didn't join the union until 3 months after I started. I used to live in a right to work state, but the state I live and work in now is not. Your issue sounds different, though. I'd take the pay stubs to your steward and maybe the center manager. Maybe it's just a payroll error.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Good point, except I wish I could opt out of the health benefits for higher pay. Being a full-time college student, I'm eligible to be on my dad's health insurance and my mom's health insurance. However, I do get $3000/year for tuition money, so maybe that evens it out?

Yeah, a two-tiered pay scale would make sense. However, the union preaches solidarity and one thing less-than-solid would be some bright-eyed 20 year old starting at making $20/hr while a 40 year old w/ family starts at $10.