How have you been "sold out" your deal hasn't been ratified? L710 has a healthy treasury and a "green" zone Pension, but please don't let those pesky facts get in the way of your "credible" opinion.
Union is done
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realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Maybe local 710 is thinking Hoffa will impose their contract as well. You can't say it is not a real possibility now.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
It's almost like you are making my case for me every time you post. Thank you.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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It would be much easier to work around CACH than Worldport.
Big Bad Wolf
Well-Known Member
Once again, you can't state 89's issue besides health or bus tokens.
Did I blow your house down?
710 steward
Well-Known Member
Game
Why did Flynn and his staff defer salaries to show that they operated in the black for the 2013 fiscal year? How many union halls are on the books for 710? I'll give you a hint, it's more than one. Is it ok for business reps to drive Tahoe's that get maybe 20 miles to the gallon when there are more cost effective vehicles? Btw, those same salaries are now being repaid for the 2014 fiscal year. Seriously do yourself a favor do not use the word credible when all you do is deflect and protect your old friends.
Are you going to run against them in the next election?
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
Vengeful for what?
Big Bad Wolf
Well-Known Member
Because Hoffa took the throne from the great and all powerful Oz. And TDU thought they were going to be on the fast track to success. So reformers are set to project themselves as improvers of the union when in fact it's only to gain control. *Reminder- I am a reformed reformer. A true unionist looks at a union as a whole, not just UPS Teamsters.
Did I blow your house down?
L710 showed a net asset gain because they spent less than they took in. Where are your facts? There was no salary deferral. What is listed on the 2013 LM2 (which seems a bit over your head) is expenses and income for 2013 including all salaries paid in 2013 in total. It appears a loan was restructured down from $403K to $330K which indicates less obligation for members which I'd say is desirable. Multiple Union facilities for a 19,000 member local covering the geographic area L710 has isn't unusual. It's called serving the members.
Instead of foolishly accusing me of protecting my old guard friends (never met Flynn) how about posting facts instead of off base speculation.
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Well besides the shuttle issue, they wanted more full time jobs, better disability, and ending or reducing subcontracting.
Since you were unable to google local 89's website and look on their main page for this story.
Now do you know why I say Hoffa likes his cheerleaders not too bright?
710 steward
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Game
Since you are over your head I'll gladly explain. Flynn was questioned at the end of the meeting two months ago. He admitted that he deferred his and others salaries to show that 710 operated in the black for 2013. I don't care where you are getting your figures. He admitted that he had deferred salaries because someone had information claiming he did. I was at the meeting and watched Flynn carefully answer questions about it. Numbers are numbers and can be manipulated to look any way needed.
728ups
All Trash No Trailer
I'm thinking it's not the Hoffa supporters who, in your words aren;t too bright. I rather think the part of Zuckerman stating he'd still encourage his local to shoot down the rider regardless of whether his demands were made to be very enlightningAttachments
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Somebody is being lied to. Since I have followed local 89's negotiations closely, I know it's not me.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Let me congratulate you, for finally getting involved on the Cafe.
There are far to many bench warmers at UPS.
Not directing this at you....
It's readily apparent, there is a vocal "interest" now.
Is it only a small discontent TDU group (or sympathizers) or is the membership in general ??
My posts aren't required reading.
If you don't like them.... don't read them.
-Bug-
BTW.... I run about a 50/1 ratio on likes vs dislikes.
(All the dislikes are from the TDU crowd) But, who's counting.
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Big Bad Wolf
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Oh really? Don't be so sure. A person gunning for the spot light will tell you all kinds of things. Even untruths.
Did I blow your house down?
realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Full time jobs, better disability and subcontracting have been issues at 89 for over a year.
You've been lied to and are not bright enough to figure it out on your own.
710 steward
Well-Known Member
Bug,
It's not TDU. My building would vote almost unanimously against the current slate. At the Teamcare meeting the business rep was getting verbally hammered so hard he left the room and sat in the lobby. Yes Game that's true. The sentiment in the UPS crowd is that it's time to go. I have heard similar sentiments at the meeting but it's tough to really get to know all of the membership. Flynn has created a mountain of problems that he continuously answer for every meeting. We are still maintaining 2 halls so there is big time money mismanagement.
It's not TDU. My building would vote almost unanimously against the current slate. At the Teamcare meeting the business rep was getting verbally hammered so hard he left the room and sat in the lobby. Yes Game that's true. The sentiment in the UPS crowd is that it's time to go. I have heard similar sentiments at the meeting but it's tough to really get to know all of the membership. Flynn has created a mountain of problems that he continuously answer for every meeting. We are still maintaining 2 halls so there is big time money mismanagement.
So it's all about teamcare?
