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ur right.might just call and get a withdraw card like a lot of guys are talking about in my local.teamsters sold us out
Union is done
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Stonefish
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Big Bad Wolf
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i hope they do it would certainly be more humane
Irishman Collins
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804, couldn't agree more! The Teamsters union quite possibly could be the weakest union there is. It is pathetic if it weren't for the one year waiting period before you could change Unions, I think 40% of locals would be gone. I am ashamed and embarrassed to be a Teamster! We need change in a bad way!
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Xexys
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I will no longer offer up the information that I'm retired from UPS either. I feel ashamed to have worked for the teamster led UPS. I'm very glad I made it through my 30+ years though. I can't imagine doing it in this day and age of the new UPS and the way the Teamsters represent the workers. Good luck to all of you that are hoping and waiting for your retirement. I give all of you kudos if you make it in the NEW UPS.
After retiring, I moved to Arizona, a RTW state. If I knew then what I know now, I would work at UPS in a RTW state and never join the Union. Just saying...
After retiring, I moved to Arizona, a RTW state. If I knew then what I know now, I would work at UPS in a RTW state and never join the Union. Just saying...
Big Bad Wolf
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710 steward
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BBW,
Really???? A simple statement from a former Teamster and UPSer brings on this? He is simply stating he is shocked to see how this went down like the rest of us. In rtw states there really isn't a benefit to being in the union. I wish rtw would be outlawed by the federal government. Exactly how is he a scab or a thief? Please explain because I have to hear this reasoning.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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If anything, RTW will expand to all but the most union-strong states.
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710 steward
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Unfortunately I agree with this thinking and statement. Hoffa REALLY screwed this union both short and long term allowing people to question being in the union. If people feel like they don't have a voice they won't participate in the Teamsters. It doesn't even matter if he resigned tomorrow. What's done is done.
how about starting our own UPS only union?
If everyone had that attitude the terrible conditions you speak of would be exponentially worse, and you most likely couldn't afford to retire.
710 steward
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Game
You made a funny. I admit I laughed out loud when I read your post. We do have a new UPS. The route I have went out with 110 deliveries just 5 years ago. Now that number is 140. We have new Teamsters too. You know this group. They give concessions and force contracts regardless how their membership feels. Where in his post did he reference poor conditions? Keep spinning the truth for your old friends.
No spinning for anyone chief just a simple statement.
What does increasing your stop count have to do with anything? Negotiation is give and take, always has been, but you have no experience in that so it's easy to criticize. But to the point of my post.. if RTW happened 30 yrs ago, and all employees could freeload, do you honestly think the contract would be anywhere near what we have presently? This horrible contract we're suffering under would only exist in your dreams.
Irishman Collins
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You are right, give and take, not just give and give. Worst contract in Teamsters history!!
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Really, you've reserched every Teamster Contract since 1903?
At least limit your inanity to the worst "UPS contract..."
I was looking over a couple freight contracts I picked up at the hall at the last meeting. Talk about concessions. They were dying and they did what they had to do. There is nothing like this in out contract. We make the best wage in the industry and our teamcare is second to none.
Your problem is you have been living high on the hog for so long that you have lost all touch with the world.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I assume by freight you mean YRC, not UPSF.
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710 steward
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Game
I love the old guard. You guys are great for a laugh. When this person refers to the "new UPS" they are talking about increased workloads and less routes. They are talking about the ability to watch every move you make based off a computer.
I like you. I do. You a great for a laugh. You have no idea what these guys are going through but to answer your question, no rtw would have held contracts back. They are making things harder now and your buddy Hoffa just set us back and quite possibly we may not recover from his weakness. Here is the thing you old guys don't get, it's not 30 years ago and you should be rewarded based off what you did 3 generations ago. I know it's shocking to hear but that's true.
I love the old guard. You guys are great for a laugh. When this person refers to the "new UPS" they are talking about increased workloads and less routes. They are talking about the ability to watch every move you make based off a computer.
I like you. I do. You a great for a laugh. You have no idea what these guys are going through but to answer your question, no rtw would have held contracts back. They are making things harder now and your buddy Hoffa just set us back and quite possibly we may not recover from his weakness. Here is the thing you old guys don't get, it's not 30 years ago and you should be rewarded based off what you did 3 generations ago. I know it's shocking to hear but that's true.
Yrc and ABF is what I meant. Ups freight makes the best wages in the industry. Csi makes a killing as well.
