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804brown

Well-Known Member
I don't have a problem with Liam being a BA if thats what the executive board decides to do , I back Tim 100% As far as Kenny going back to the trucks , knowing Kenny . I'm sure he's making the right call , he's a very smart guy and knows what best for him and his family. Saying that he was a weak link in the chain and now I hope they bring in a strong person.

I agree with most of this. Ken R was getting good marks for what he was doing (part-timers and outside shops). Will our union be stronger with another, more experienced steward? Yes!
 

804brown

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Hey Eyeball you sound dumb.Why dont you get your story straight. It was Row B's sargent at arms a big Row B supportor who was telling no balls Jim to strike the company. That is when Jim R told everyone we have to follow procedures. What procedures? The old board would have pulled the whole building out. As far as clowns. You top the cake.

I heard George Z was playing both sides.
 

Had enough

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I would too local804. But this move isnt a surprise, really. If you spoke with him over the past year or so you would know he was trying to balance the job with his family.

Lets see now, I leave my house at 7am and get home 9 pm.......He can do that and balance a family. I can't even raise my kids because they are in bed before I get home. I only see them on the week end.

Maybe just maybe like I have been saying from the beginning nooooooo experience or backbone to handle the job!!!!!

This is why the Union is being destroyed........
 

Had enough

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I agree with most of this. Ken R was getting good marks for what he was doing (part-timers and outside shops). Will our union be stronger with another, more experienced steward? Yes!
Hey your kidding us righ? What they are bring in is a guy who could not save his own job!!!!!!
 

Had enough

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Wrong, "mistake". Not everyone who reads a book knows the contract. Reading is not the same as understanding how to use it. Some things are black or white, while others are about interpretation and implementation. If you ever met and spoke to Liam, you would see he not only knows his s@#t but he thinks strategically and understands the contract.

On why he lost his job, ask your boy Tony D how he sold out Liam. Ask him who he got for Liam. Tony traded members like it was fantasy baseball.

You think he is "in our union because he is part of there click"?? You are really that clueless. Tim and Jim built that slate from scratch. People like Dave friend and Mark H and Anthony C used to be Row A guys. They werent part of any "click"! The entire group were guys who spoke up and were willing to stand up and take on UPS management. They were guys that were wiling to stick their heads above the water and bravely take on a group of entrenched incumbents. That takes b@#%s. Taking on a new board thats in power only 1 year doesn't take b@#%s !

You have a beef with Liam, call the hall and talk to him yourself. Ask the members in his building, Maspeth, about Liam. The man is relentless!!

Your board is done! They have no balls. Thats why over 300 men lost jobs! They are liars!!!







 

EyesLookingIn

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"Aces the dye must be getting to your head again. Your were at the nomanitions meeting standing in the back with the green jacket. You heard Tim say George Z is their sargent of arms and a big supporter of Row B. So why are you lieing saying The members Voice wants him on their slate. You are just like Row B a liar."

Hey Lonewolfl ,, I guess your not really in the loop .... George Z has been going around telling members that he was asked to run with Row C. Just because he was Sargent of arms doesn't matter. Maybe Tim will ask him to join the E Board......Time will tell
 

Ibt804Hammer

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Lets see now, I leave my house at 7am and get home 9 pm.......He can do that and balance a family. I can't even raise my kids because they are in bed before I get home. I only see them on the week end.

Maybe just maybe like I have been saying from the beginning nooooooo experience or backbone to handle the job!!!!!

This is why the Union is being destroyed........
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The reason the union is being destroyed is because team ROW A is dividing the union. I agree with tim on almost everything.... I would have filed ibt charges against a few of the ex board membersand I wouldn't have gave steve m 27k for his 8-9 unused vacation weeks without proof he didn't take any. Let him show proof in his statements instead of letting him walk away with just removing the hard drives .
 

EyesLookingIn

Well-Known Member
Hey your kidding us righ? What they are bring in is a guy who could not save his own job!!!!!!

Had enough you are really useless.... Liam was already in the hall , IBT is talking about that our E Board will bring in another member. I'm sure that member will make them more stronger then Ken made them.
 

Had enough

Well-Known Member
Had enough you are really useless.... Liam was already in the hall , IBT is talking about that our E Board will bring in another member. I'm sure that member will make them more stronger then Ken made them.

We will just have to see now won't we? We really don't have a choice at this moment!!!!

 

packageman

Active Member
"Lonewolfl not giving us the whole story , I talked to a guy in Brush , A helper took a crap on the floor in a building and left it there , didn't tell anyone , he was caught on camera by the building and called UPS. The union did involk article 7 and he's going to be paid until he has a hearing. I also heard the 2 clowns that are stewards wanted to pull the building. One of the clowns ran with Row C."

If you got to go you got to go....... "blank" happens. Funny that the 2 stewards would say pull the building , Dwight was running with Row C , shows how smart he is , someone tell him its illegal and would cost our union millions of dollars to pull a building but this is one of the men that wanted to represent us..... LOL and the other steward that Row C wants to add to their slate is George Z he's a steward for 1 year and use to be a UPS SUPERVISOR. Great Choices ...... I know lets FLUSH $10,000 of our hard working union dues money and send this case to arbitration......
They should have sent tim to clean it up he is use to that
 
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