Union Politics - 804 members coming soon agitator 2

not what i voted for

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You really crack me up!! So are you calling him a maroon or an irishman?? LOL!! The next sentence is even funnier: "The old board was at the buildings fighting for our members" LOL!! No, they werent at the buildings!! And when they did show up, they certainly werent fighting with management!! They were behind closed doors making deals with management, selling us out!! That is why they were booted out 2 to 1. That fact has not changed.

The membership was tired of old, worn out, overpaid, Caddy-driving, wanna-be wise guys who thought they were in their positions for life. Do you really believe that the members want that back?? Do you really think they forgot about the size of the arbitration docket Row B inherited of suspended and discharged members?? Or how they bankrupted our health and welfare funds?? Or pushed those Hoffa contracts and telematics on us?? I could go on here.

The days of Tony D and his boys are over. They had their chance and they let us all down!! It is time to just go away and let this be one union for awhile and let these guys do their jobs we elected then to do!!


It is time to just go away and let this be one union for awhile and let these guys do their jobs we elected then to do!![/

OK I am still waiting!
 

MistakeVoting4ThisEboard

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You really crack me up!! They had their chance and they let us all down!! It is time to just go away and let this be one union for awhile and let these guys do their jobs we elected then to do!!

You and the E board are cracking up the members!! The E Board promised to enforce the contract in there election campaign, So why are are members being sent home on 72's for cases not involving the theft of money or merchandise.

Is this what Tough but Fair contract enforcement is. - Not !! I call it incompetence - and I mean incompetent for its true meaning which is the inability to perform...

Section 1 - Immediate Suspension or Discharge
The following shall be causes for immediate suspension or discharge of an employee: drinking, or proven or admitted dishonesty.
See Article 18, Section 1 (a).
In cases not involving the theft of money or merchandise an employee will remain on the job until a hearing is held with the business agent. Such hearing will take place within 72 hours.

(now your gonna say they Admitted dishonesty, wrong they didn't admit to anything) ask Anthony C for the Truth...)

You see, we gave our E board a chance and they have let us down over and over again!!!. Its is time for them to go away and resign if they cared about the members like Kenny R did. They are not doing the job they were elected to do!!!
 

804brown

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You and the E board are cracking up the members!! The E Board promised to enforce the contract in there election campaign, So why are are members being sent home on 72's for cases not involving the theft of money or merchandise.

Is this what Tough but Fair contract enforcement is. - Not !! I call it incompetence - and I mean incompetent for its true meaning which is the inability to perform...

Section 1 - Immediate Suspension or Discharge
The following shall be causes for immediate suspension or discharge of an employee: drinking, or proven or admitted dishonesty.
See Article 18, Section 1 (a).
In cases not involving the theft of money or merchandise an employee will remain on the job until a hearing is held with the business agent. Such hearing will take place within 72 hours.

(now your gonna say they Admitted dishonesty, wrong they didn't admit to anything) ask Anthony C for the Truth...)

You see, we gave our E board a chance and they have let us down over and over again!!!. Its is time for them to go away and resign if they cared about the members like Kenny R did. They are not doing the job they were elected to do!!!

What is the problem? (1)The employee did get paid during that 72. (2) The employee then attended a hearing with his/her business agent present.
 

MistakeVoting4ThisEboard

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What is the problem? (1)The employee did get paid during that 72. (2) The employee then attended a hearing with his/her business agent present.

The problem is why did the E board, (the blame does not go all to Anthony C on this one) allow UPS to send the Driver home on a 72. Are you not understanding, because your reply is trying to cover up your E board. There is a contract to follow. What dont you understand. I gave you the definition of incompetent .

Now in Section 2 it states:
Such notice shall also be given to the Shop Steward and the Local. So don't try to blame the steward again like your boy Ace. If our E Board is not there backing up our Stewards what good is our E Board for.

What we got was another Give Back of our contract by our Executive board, or call it deal making with the company.
 
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CRASH501

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i dont dissagree with what you say but our old board never updated there website at all so if you think this is slow , i would of loved to hear what you had to say about the old boards website updating info.........at least we now have a decent website , hope they inprove it but now its not updated every 6 months.
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Decent website? I cant get on without an hour delay! The website sux...... Im not talking about updates, im talking actually working!
 

804brown

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Decent website? I cant get on without an hour delay! The website sux...... Im not talking about updates, im talking actually working!

Never have a problem getting on to the website. It must be your computer.

"I now understand why people go postal" ?? In our case we go "parcel"!! LOL
 

AcesUp804

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Decent website? I cant get on without an hour delay! The website sux...... Im not talking about updates, im talking actually working!

Time to upgrade from that 486 you have ,, never once had delays on Local 804 website , didn't ever have delays 2 years ago. has to be your computer
 

CRASH501

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Time to upgrade from that 486 you have ,, never once had delays on Local 804 website , didn't ever have delays 2 years ago. has to be your computer
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LETS SEE...........
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I build a laptop for 2 grand, have no trouble on any other site's I have 1.5 tb of memory, plenty of other high speed computer crap that I dont understand to make it work faster...... and as per a previous comment "NO PORN"
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I use this laptop to teach,
I use my home computer for the same,
I have no trouble anywhere but the 804 site...........YUP MUST BE MY SYSTEM!
 

not what i voted for

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MistakeVoting4ThisEboard

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Why dont You go to Make UPS Deliver. Org that may answer your question.Where do you think your dues money is going. It is pay back time for all the money TDU spent on getting this board elected.

You bring up a good point.
There is some information from some ex TDU guys, close to Tim, TDU gave Tim resources, they did not cut him a check but funded him for election-related purposes, such as printing Convoy Dispatch, or helping members design campaign literature for his election campaign.
(ex. mailing literature, website design - etc...) These resources provided buy TDU are estimated to be about $50,000.00

Back to my point, The condition of these resources was that Tim had to run for president, no ifs, buts about it. So the rest of the clowns obeyed to take other positions. Ok, now in order for Tim to repay TDU, he must somehow repay TDU with our union funds, to show support of there cause and existence, also to show they have a purpose and obtain new members which is the only way they can survive.
Our E Board must now figure out a way to move money to TDU. Perhaps by over paying them to design there site, perhaps to overpay them to use TDU to teach the workshop and strategy meeting sponsored by the Local 804 so called Teamster University. ( Even Sandy Pope is involved.)
Call it what u want right now, but the truth will come out. I didn't believe it, but its all making sense now.

By the way, TDU admits that "Only money from active Teamsters and their spouses is used for any election-related purpose, such as printing Convoy Dispatch, or helping members design campaign literature"
 

804brown

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You bring up a good point.
There is some information from some ex TDU guys, close to Tim, TDU gave Tim resources, they did not cut him a check but funded him for election-related purposes, such as printing Convoy Dispatch, or helping members design campaign literature for his election campaign.
(ex. mailing literature, website design - etc...) These resources provided buy TDU are estimated to be about $50,000.00

Back to my point, The condition of these resources was that Tim had to run for president, no ifs, buts about it. So the rest of the clowns obeyed to take other positions. Ok, now in order for Tim to repay TDU, he must somehow repay TDU with our union funds, to show support of there cause and existence, also to show they have a purpose and obtain new members which is the only way they can survive.
Our E Board must now figure out a way to move money to TDU. Perhaps by over paying them to design there site, perhaps to overpay them to use TDU to teach the workshop and strategy meeting sponsored by the Local 804 so called Teamster University. ( Even Sandy Pope is involved.)
Call it what u want right now, but the truth will come out. I didn't believe it, but its all making sense now.

By the way, TDU admits that "Only money from active Teamsters and their spouses is used for any election-related purpose, such as printing Convoy Dispatch, or helping members design campaign literature"

Yeah, thats right just like Ron Carey did during his re-election campaign , right?? LOL I also heard Tim had a role in planning 911 and was seen on the "grassy knoll". LOL
 

local804

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You are the crap I am talking about!!

Make sure you log on your correct screen name before you answer.
Now we can add truckingaround as another alias. Its actually pretty sad that you woul have to make different accouts to make people thing more than two think like you.
 
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