Had enough
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Word is that the members voice slate is supported 100 percent in Forster, Maspeth and all of long island. No b@ll bill must be be crabbing his b@lls now!
Word is that the members voice slate is supported 100 percent in Forster, Maspeth and all of long island. No b@ll bill must be be crabbing his b@lls now!
Word around 43rd is 3 from members voice and 2 from the current board. It's going to get interesting.
Word is that the members voice slate is supported 100 percent in Forster, Maspeth and all of long island. No b@ll bill must be be crabbing his b@lls now!
I could pretty much bet that the board that is in office now, will not run exactly as it is now. I could deal with Bill as pres and I can deal with Tim. There is no way in hell I could deal with Tony. I wouldnt put too much of the blame for some of the problems you listed on Bills back brown. Vp is 3rd from the top and he only gets one vote on the h/w and we have no idea what he wanted. He will no doubt take the hate Tim votes away from Tony.
I find it hard to believe that members of local 804 would think that this administration knows or has shown anything to us worth another term! Maybe we should ask the members that have been dismissed, disconnected and abandoned bye our executive board!
Excuse me! Ball washer? Wow you are tough! Almost think you are a thug? I'm sure you want none of me or anyone else due to the fact your fat and washed up like Larry Holmes! As for other pensions! Everyone in 804 gets the same when they get there retirement! Most of these other locals have different accrual rates! Ya stubby! Tiers!!! So they have guys that are getting larger payments not all! It's called unity! So if you really cared about your fellow brother you would know some members! Present and unborn bore the brunt! So thank your past board for standing up! And not taking a lower accrual rate than the locals you speak of which did!!
Your not a thug. You are a mental patient. You are also athank your past board??? LOL for what not standing up to Hoffa and saying we won't back these last 2 contracts because there is not enough money going to our medical and pension.
thank your past board??? for waiting untill they got re-elected to tell us our accrual rate was cut by almost 40 dollars
thank your past board??? for not telling us our medical was going to arbitration....
I'm not a thug, I working for over 25 years and watched UPS make money every year and also watched our old board turn there back on Ronnie and kiss Hoffa butt and not fight for us.
I'm not 100% sure thats what they did with the accrual rate but if so great! It stayed the same for all of our members, no tiers! Our current board buys everything the company states like a hot stock from a insider trading tip. Let's analyze it again if present board had been in what you call not telling the truth!
1. Accrual rate drops bye what did you say 40.00?
2. Several years ago they would have made us pay more for co-pays, x-rays, blood work, emergency room visits and out of network cost!
3. Arbitration would have been the best fit! As You state this company has always made money! I believe an arbitrator would have been able to understand the rising cost of healthcare! Now! We going into negotiating with a surpluses ? Real smart!
4. They would have cut our $50.000 lump sum along with some of key retirement things that they have already cut.
5. No one in this local is in love with Hoffa! It's common sense that we understand this! Our local lost a lot power bye backing Pope! I never understood why a person would think? And our local would back! A person that doesn't represent 2000 members! A local that's almost bankrupt and think she could run and oversea 1 million people? I believe you guys should have used Tim there instead! Just bad idea after bad idea. That wouldn't have worked either but made much better sense!
I find it hard to believe that members of local 804 would think that this administration knows or has shown anything to us worth another term! Maybe we should ask the members that have been dismissed, disconnected and abandoned bye our executive board!
I don't get where Bill or Tony had Anything to do with the National language. Bill and Tony only have input on supplemental language and we have one of the better supplemental in the country. Fact! Not one ups local was able to avoid the technology language we received! So tell us again how it's the old boards fault???
Wow!! For having 25 years of service you haven't paid attention closely enough our pension did go up in 14 years. Now when it comes to the salary this E-Board is making more money than the last E-Board that is a fact! They spend $6,839,117 on 2011 more than $1,800,000 from the last year that Howie was in. That speaks to all the benefits this E-Board is hiding Salary, car allowing, 401k, Annuity ETC..My pension has not gone up in 14 years my medical was destroyed. The old board lied to us all the time while we got split raises and bullshi/ contracts that they told us was fair for the times there salaries went from $124,000 to $167,000 2 pensions and a matching 401k
Our old board never took Art 7 sec 3 cases to the panel to be paid because it would of made UPS look bad and was to much work for them.
Our old board was willing to give of 25 and out coffee and give back 10 cents of our money to UPS.
SHOW ME A SLATE THAT DOESN'T HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE OLD BOARD.....
Upstate NY UPS full timers get 5700 pension
13 western states UPS full timers get 4700 pension
Washington DC UPS full timers get 6000
They went though the same bad times we did 14 years ago our pension was 3600 now 14 years later its still 3600....... THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT THEY WERE DOING......
but I'm sure they shock your hand and made you fell special..... BALLWASHER
Do I think Tim and the rest of this board are great no but I want them to negotiate our next contract not Tony D or Bill B... ONLY in office 2 1/2 years and our local is going in the right direction. AND THEY TELL US THE TRUTH.....
I don't get where Bill or Tony had Anything to do with the National language. Bill and Tony only have input on supplemental language and we have one of the better supplemental in the country. Fact! Not one ups local was able to avoid the technology language we received! So tell us again how it's the old boards fault???
Remember the arbitrator COULD have decided to end ALL coverage of the RETIREES!! Could have found that the monthly deficits equalled what the funds pay out every month to retirees and dropped them!! Redmond and Buhlert obviously didnt think through their decision or just didnt give a!!
Anyway just read in the 804 newsletter that our Trustees have made a motion to stop any increases in the cost of retiree medical coverage which means the cost of retiree healthcare will be frozen at the current level!! That is welcome news. That is what a surplus can do for you!!