Union Politics - 804 members coming soon agitator 2

[newtothis]

 

[804brown]

TOM D, are this the 400k your are taking about?
Tim S. and co. need to explain where the money went!

Local804 LM2, 2012.
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At one of last year's union meetings, it was stated that an adjusted depreciation of the hall value had occurred. It was an accountants error for the years 2008 through 2010 (which means it started during the last administration and was found during this administration). The accountant was at that meeting and was available to take questions. The amount was about $325k. If you add about $95k for the cost of contract negotiations I think it accounts for the lower number on the LM2s.
So maybe next time before you accuse your board of "corruption" etc you will do some homework and research before yo make a fool of yourself!! Like I said before, jim don't do much but what he does do he does well.

 

[804brown]

Lets see, first we would still have the 1200 members that were fired under Tim S. supervisors and managers yes manager, would be paying for doing union work, last week in Melville, five supervisors were working in front of Steve A and all he did was laugh, while P/T off the clock were walking past. Lets see, medical bills were being paid, we have a record number of members on collection, you try finding a doctor on this plan, good luck they are dropping like flies.
Howie would have never agreed to make the members and retires pay high co-pay and retires pay 500 to 600 hundred dollars a month, some of those retires had to get second jobs to pay for their medical. The hardship that this board has put on our members is repulsive. I can see you only think of yourself, that's what is so disgusting about you row B supporters: you've been had! You've been took! You've been led astray, run amok, victimized, hoodwinked! You've been bamboozled ! You've been lied to! AND YOU STILL DON'T GET IT!

Again, you throw around numbers like 1200 members fired under tim, etc. Not true. You just read the LM2s and make a broad brush assumption that since the number changed by 1200 that they have been fired. Fact is the numbers have problematic for years. UPS had a number of people on pay role and then there is the number the union has through union dues. The previous administration has the same problem. This administration brought this issue to the company's attention last year. They even sought to bring it to the national grievance panel. UPS agreed to settle and provided lists that the union had requested which were the first of their kind to be provided to our local. They are currently using these lists while conferring with the IBT in order to verify the actual membership count.
So once again it takes some homework and some research to find out what really is going on. If you really wanted the truth it was easy to get. But you only wanted to WRONGLY accuse the board of allowing 1200 members to get fired!! Your credibility is ZERO!!

 

[member6045]

I think you have proven what most of us have known for sometime. Thanks a bunch 804 brown. You sure know what your talking about to a T.

 

[Inthegame]

I think you have proven what most of us have known for sometime. Thanks a bunch 804 brown. You sure know what your talking about to a T.

Have you finally come around? 804 indeed knows his stuff. Maybe if you and your boys would listen at the few meetings you attend you'd learn some facts too.

 

[bigd]

804brown, is Tim S. going to apologize to brother George on Sunday?
We all remember what happen in the last general membership meeting.

 

[member6045]

So I guess he's the only person listening at union meetings? Right!! Lols.
I never said he was smart as you missed! He Just knows more than enough lies and deception to be one of the e board members still using multiple screen names on bc!! And and old fart too! Also! I love how he gets upset about the name Howie! I said it now go on a tear about someone we haven't seen in almost 5 years that you can't even stack up too!

 

[joseph]

At one of last year's union meetings, it was stated that an adjusted depreciation of the hall value had occurred. It was an accountants error for the years 2008 through 2010 (which means it started during the last administration and was found during this administration). The accountant was at that meeting and was available to take questions. The amount was about $325k. If you add about $95k for the cost of contract negotiations I think it accounts for the lower number on the LM2s.
So maybe next time before you accuse your board of "corruption" etc you will do some homework and research before yo make a fool of yourself!! Like I said before, jim don't do much but what he does do he does well.

Their you go again, $400.000,00, missing I want to know where Obrien got the money for the new boat. Maybe they all should be investigated.

 

[Inthegame]

Their you go again, $400.000,00, missing I want to know where Obrien got the money for the new boat. Maybe they all should be investigated.

Maybe every member that purchased a new car in the last 4 years needs to be investigated. It's a shame you're a poor money manager and can't save for a new boat. Some others, like intelligent members of this board, know how to manage their funds and can buy some toys. Thankfully they are in office and you're not.
Real estate took a hit in 2008 Einstein, which means many locals real estate lost value. 804 Brown clearly and accurately reiterated what was reported openly to all members. Show up and listen once in a while and maybe a few facts will find their way into the cranial cavity.

 

[not what i voted for]

At one of last year's union meetings, it was stated that an adjusted depreciation of the hall value had occurred. It was an accountants error for the years 2008 through 2010 (which means it started during the last administration and was found during this administration). The accountant was at that meeting and was available to take questions. The amount was about $325k. If you add about $95k for the cost of contract negotiations I think it accounts for the lower number on the LM2s.
So maybe next time before you accuse your board of "corruption" etc you will do some homework and research before yo make a fool of yourself!! Like I said before, jim don't do much but what he does do he does well.

You are so full of **** the LM2 would not include this years negotiations expense, so who is the fool . And another fact is Jim doesn't do anything the accountant fills out the LM2 all he does is sign it. The value of everyone's property has changed no big surprise. Maybe you should get your facts straight smart guy

 

[enzo]

keep voting no until they get it right. I hope the e.b. knows their jobs are on the line with this supplement

 

[teamster 804]

Did everyone get your annuity statements.It seems to earn interest now for some reason.

 

[804brown]

804brown, is Tim S. going to apologize to brother George on Sunday?
We all remember what happen in the last general membership meeting.

Is brother george going to be out of line and out of control again?? He also needs to apologize to the member at the mic who was trying to speak too!!

 

[804brown]

So I guess he's the only person listening at union meetings? Right!! Lols.
I never said he was smart as you missed! He Just knows more than enough lies and deception to be one of the e board members still using multiple screen names on bc!! And and old fart too! Also! I love how he gets upset about the name Howie! I said it now go on a tear about someone we haven't seen in almost 5 years that you can't even stack up too!

LOL, so now im an old fart E/B member too!! You crack me up. I dont get upset about the name howie. Speak about him all you want but you cant remake history. Howie's time was a failure. He and his crew inherited a strong union from ron carey. In that time they squandered that strength and power and unity, first by turning their backs on ron when he needed them. Second, they turned their backs on the rank and file by kissing up to hoffa. And finally, they just gave up and stopped caring. At the end they only cared about saving their well paid positions even if it meant lying or keeping us in the dark about our pensions or the state of our health fund. They failed us as leaders.
Tim and his crew lead from the beginning. They could have let the h/w funds run out and then blame it all on howie but as soon as they got in, they tackled that problem and made some tough decisions that werent politically popular were in hindsight they needed to be done!!
Finally, it hasnt been 5 years for howie. His last day was dec 31 2009. So we have been without him for only 3 1/2 years.

 

[804brown]

Maybe every member that purchased a new car in the last 4 years needs to be investigated. It's a shame you're a poor money manager and can't save for a new boat. Some others, like intelligent members of this board, know how to manage their funds and can buy some toys. Thankfully they are in office and you're not.
Real estate took a hit in 2008 Einstein, which means many locals real estate lost value. 804 Brown clearly and accurately reiterated what was reported openly to all members. Show up and listen once in a while and maybe a few facts will find their way into the cranial cavity.

Well put inthegame. How dare this idiot question any normal purchase that lots of other people on long island have?? This member (or former e/b member) has no morals.

 

[member6045]

What was the arbitrators decision on healthcare 804 brown?

 

[804brown]

You are so full of **** the LM2 would not include this years negotiations expense, so who is the fool . And another fact is Jim doesn't do anything the accountant fills out the LM2 all he does is sign it. The value of everyone's property has changed no big surprise. Maybe you should get your facts straight smart guy

Ok, thats probably right about the $95k for negotiations. But dont forget, they started negotiating last september so im sure some of that is on last year's LM2s. And yes jim r does the books. Its the accountant who goes over jim's work.

 

[804brown]

What was the arbitrators decision on healthcare 804 brown?

Dont you listen at the union meetings??

 

[member6045]

I do listen and retain well! But you have a few thousand people who silently look and don't post who where not at the meeting. So answer question! Before someone answers it for you!

 

[not what i voted for]

Ok, thats probably right about the $95k for negotiations. But dont forget, they started negotiating last september so im sure some of that is on last year's LM2s. And yes jim r does the books. Its the accountant who goes over jim's work.

Wrong again, the bookkeeper does the books and the accountant checks her work then explains it to him.