Union Politics - 804 members coming soon agitator 2

ROW A

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Brothers and Sisters please VOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!! IM PERSONALLY VOTING FOR ROW B = THATS OUR BOARD THEY REPRESENT LOCAL 804!!!!! WHY WOULD WE SEND MEMBERS THATS NOT IN POWER TO VEGAS THEY HAVE NO LEVERAGE TO PROTECT OUR SUPPLEMENTAL LANGUAGE.. DONT BE FOOLED !!!!!!! DID YOU LIKE THE LAST CONTRACT?????? IF YOU DID VOTE ROW C ....
 

AcesUp804

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Members United - Row B the team you can depend on raised all our co-payments. Took away our major medical. Members are getting bills like crazy. Raised the retiree medical and now nobody can retire until 65.This is the way Tony , Angelo and John left the health and welfare this is what happens when you vote on a bunch of unexperienced men.LOL OLD BOARD Destroyed our
union Now they are backing TDU Sandy Hope and trying to Elect a person who never even worked for UPS, Hoffa never worked for UPS either but at least Sandy worked as a TEAMSTER drove a truck and paid her dues. but she knows about hiring immagrants. False again , she goes in to organize workers what were hired , doesnt ask whos legal. She is loosing record number of members in her local. Because of no strength from the IBT , just like we are losing Teamster jobs every day in America. Dont forget Row B has also raised your Union dues 3 dollars more in 8 months. All these guys believe is taking money out of the members pockets and voting with UPS to raise everything. LOL again FALSE the union dues ONLY ONLY go up when you get a raise NICE TRY If you continue to vote for the Executive board in the next contract you will be paying for your own medical and your own uniforms. LOL thats funny someone getting nervous. The writing is on the wall members don't believe or trust the old board members.Remember Members Voice is the Right choice They are an independent team fighting for our members of Local 804.

Angelo , Tony do not care about out local , proof is the way they acted after they lost.Members that were fired under Tony D have nothing in there file in writing from Tony D no notes nothing only what UPS sent to the hall. When Tony came back to Foster he asked the Shop Stewards to all step down , he ran for steward and got crushed , This is not a person that we should ever trust again he only cares about himself. And now Angelo , Tony and John are using members to try to get back in.

VOTE 804 MEMBERS UNITY
 

lonewolf

Well-Known Member
Angelo , Tony do not care about out local , proof is the way they acted after they lost.Members that were fired under Tony D have nothing in there file in writing from Tony D no notes nothing only what UPS sent to the hall. When Tony came back to Foster he asked the Shop Stewards to all step down , he ran for steward and got crushed , This is not a person that we should ever trust again he only cares about himself. And now Angelo , Tony and John are using members to try to get back in.

VOTE 804 MEMBERS UNITY

You could highlight in any color you want, but the members are fed up with the Board. I could go on and on like you but I am not wasting any ones time. The MEMBERS VOICE IS THE MEMBERS CHOICE.:wink2:
 

local804

Well-Known Member
Noticed Tony found his way to the eastern buildings to try to drum up some support. I seen him out this way one other time and it was for the same thing, VOTES....
He was more interested in bad mouthing the board but had no real plans when asked what he was going to do to make it better. He would argue with some of the drivers then start talking about Tim again.

Keep this guy in your Brooklyn building in a cage before he does any more damage to the new slate Row C.
 

tellthetruth

Well-Known Member
Re: Local 804 lol

I made a Mistake Voting 4 This E board, I'm not going to get fooled again by them.

Here's a little fact about TDU candidate Sandy Pope

Over the last 8 years, Sandy Pope has lost over $1,807,000.00 of her Local Union's assets. In 2001 total assets were $2,570,425.00 and by 2009 her total assets were $762,594. She has steadily lost members every year, going from 1297 members in 2001 to 1066 members today. That is almost 20% of her local's membership. Over this period of time, her compensation has steadily risen each year despite her record of decline.

Wow she can't even run her union with 1,000 members how would she run the International.

Stop lying!! You never voted for this current E Board... Because if you did your first postings would have been positive.
 

AcesUp804

Well-Known Member
Whats up Brother? you have been no call no show LOL
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EyesLookingIn

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Re: Local 804 lol

Stop lying!! You never voted for this current E Board... Because if you did your first postings would have been positive.

Yes , thats how we know he's lying , because if he voted for this E board then he was upset with our contract. I know a lot of drivers that are upset with what is going on now and if it doesn't get better in 2 years may vote different , but they are all voting 804 Members united NOW they want to see Hoffa out and get Sandy Pope in to fight for a better contract. This election has nothing to do with who will be in the hall..
 

EyesLookingIn

Well-Known Member
Coffee pay?

Article 5 Local Union 804 Supplemental Agreement

"all employees who attain Company seniority prior to August 1, 2008, will be given fifteen (15) minutes of additional pay after the completion of 8 1/2 hours or work in lieu of a coffee period when they attain seniority in the package driver and helper classification."

A give back from our old E board to UPS , our members turned the first supplemental down that had us giving up 25 and out , coffee for new hires , 10 cents back , UPS would put 12 million into our pension to put it back to the way it was. Our E board said we have to vote Yes or there's no way that UPS will give us the 12 million for our pension if this contract isn't passed by JAN 1 there is no time to vote again. We voted it down UPS sent out another offer this time we got every thing back , plus the 12 million but not coffee for new hires and it was done , voted on and passed before JAN 1.
 
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lonewolf

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Members please go look at the Executive Board Flier that is posted and the same one they sent out. Nothing but more broken promises and more lies. Just trying to fool this membership.
Hang it up E Board your done. The members spoke. It only took 6 months.
 

804brown

Well-Known Member
Members please go look at the Executive Board Flier that is posted and the same one they sent out. Nothing but more broken promises and more lies. Just trying to fool this membership.
Hang it up E Board your done. The members spoke. It only took 6 months.

Clueless wolf, do not confuse the anger we have for management for our feelings for the new board. We see policies changing (stopping the health and safety committees, no more horsetrading members , building raids, informational raids) and a lot of fight back in these guys. For some it took a bit longer (LOL) but , I don't hear any significant unhappiness among the guys. And the ones that do criticize the new board were very close to the Row A guys when they were in power, no surprise here.
Listen, Row A got about 1,000 votes in that last election. I will assume they might get that much, maybe a little less this election. The new board has made believers in some of those guys. Can't see us going backwards and rewarding some of these clowns from old Row A!

And by the way lonely wolf, you are right . The members DID speak. December 2009 by 2 to 1 margin, the members voted overwhelmingly to kick your boys out and voted in strong rank and file leaders to fix the mess your boys created.

After this delegate election and Row B wins, that will be the final nail in the coffin for ALL former Row A board members -including Bill B who is not putting his name out this time but Im sure he is behind alot of this misinformation campaign. No more Tony, Angelo, John, Bill, Steve. After this election, the personalities can be put aside and we can move forward 804 MEMBERS UNITED!
 

lonewolf

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The Big Marshmallow Anthony C, sure knows how to pick them. First he passes up little Ceaser and then he picks Jack D.
Who has two friends in Foster Ave. Then he picks a TDU follower, the one standing outside handing out Row B Fliers in a brown uniform. He works in the Marine Part center. Well let me tell you a little secret about this guy. When all the Union Brothers and Sisters were on strike in l997 standing outside the building on the picket lines. This suppose union guy was working inside the building loading trucks. Now he is standing outside, giving out Row B fliers, trying to pass himself off as a big Union Guy. Is this what Row B is made up of? Non union guys who work during the strike. Even Dave O used to pal around with this guy, what does this tell you about Row B? Just like Sandy Pope who hires immigrants
 

local804

Well-Known Member
Jack D is probably the best choice in that building ahead of Tony D. Dont kid yourself, you really know it, I,know it, and everyone else knows it. If you dont, you will when people mail their election ballots in next week.

A little old school row A mixed in with new board is the best choice for the members!
 

funwithcardboard

Active Member
Clueless wolf, do not confuse the anger we have for management for our feelings for the new board. We see policies changing (stopping the health and safety committees, no more horsetrading members , building raids, informational raids) and a lot of fight back in these guys. For some it took a bit longer (LOL) but , I don't hear any significant unhappiness among the guys. And the ones that do criticize the new board were very close to the Row A guys when they were in power, no surprise here.
Listen, Row A got about 1,000 votes in that last election. I will assume they might get that much, maybe a little less this election. The new board has made believers in some of those guys. Can't see us going backwards and rewarding some of these clowns from old Row A!

And by the way lonely wolf, you are right . The members DID speak. December 2009 by 2 to 1 margin, the members voted overwhelmingly to kick your boys out and voted in strong rank and file leaders to fix the mess your boys created.

After this delegate election and Row B wins, that will be the final nail in the coffin for ALL former Row A board members -including Bill B who is not putting his name out this time but Im sure he is behind alot of this misinformation campaign. No more Tony, Angelo, John, Bill, Steve. After this election, the personalities can be put aside and we can move forward 804 MEMBERS UNITED!
Stopping the Health and Safety committes only seem to hurt the member, not the company. Wrong move on the e boards part. If the company stopped them, the union would have had a fit!
 

local804

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Stopping the Health and Safety committes only seem to hurt the member, not the company. Wrong move on the e boards part. If the company stopped them, the union would have had a fit!

Didnt see you complaining years ago when Howie did the same thing. There is no problem with the commitee, there is a problem when they use it as a tool to fire a driver. Either join with us or get out of the way cause there is no room for weak links in this chain.
 

funwithcardboard

Active Member
Didnt see you complaining years ago when Howie did the same thing. There is no problem with the commitee, there is a problem when they use it as a tool to fire a driver. Either join with us or get out of the way cause there is no room for weak links in this chain.
I felt the same way then too. Our safety should never be compromised, I dont care who is in charge!
 
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