Ups has a plan in place to replace us if we end up striking.

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Many part timers in my building are fed up with the workload and poverty wages. Expect a no vote from them unless they get $2-3 bump in pay.

They will offer a signing bonus to try and buy the vote.

 

[542thruNthru]

Many part timers in my building are fed up with the workload and poverty wages. Expect a no vote from them unless they get $2-3 bump in pay.

I know some will disagree but I'd be happy to walk the line for the part timers. They deserve more then they get and most are treated worse then drivers. They need to start voting so they can be heard.

It's funny how FT drivers expect PT to walk the line for them but think it's a joke if it's the other way around.

 

[hellfire]

Screw part timers Vote

 

[olroadbeech]

Let there be blood.

they tried to get us retirees to work peak and i don't anyone signed on.

 

[542thruNthru]

Screw part timers Vote

Who cares what you say. BUG told me you're not even a real teamster!

 

[SolidWoodPanel]

Many part timers in my building are fed up with the workload and poverty wages. Expect a no vote from them unless they get $2-3 bump in pay.

$2 more an hour would equate to at least a $2000 bump in annual salary. That's a nice start, but some people deserve that. 75% probably don't. I'd rather see the loaders who can handle the higher volume pulls get bonuses, especially if they don't have any misloads. There's a big difference when someone's loading 800 packages versus 600.

 

[Maplewood]

The only way they can replace us is to offer $100 an hour, more in some areas. Obviously in those areas they can't get enough drvers anyway. Those drivers will have to load, unless they offer $50/hr partime jobs. The only jobs they can realistically replace are the ones they do already, Feeder!

 

[542thruNthru]

$2 more an hour would equate to at least a $2000 bump in annual salary. That's a nice start, but some people deserve that. 75% probably don't. I'd rather see the loaders who can handle the higher volume pulls get bonuses, especially if they don't have any misloads. There's a big difference when someone's loading 800 packages versus 600.

So with that thinking drivers who do harder routes should be paid more then drivers with resi routes or rural routes.

No thanks. I'm not opening that can of worms.

 

[SolidWoodPanel]

So with that thinking drivers who do harder routes should be paid more then drivers with resi routes or rural routes.

No thanks. I'm not opening that can of worms.

It is a can of worms. But it's also the problem of seniority pay instead of actual merit. It's usually the most experienced drivers taking the easiest routes, and therefore less risk. And I'm fine with that for drivers. Keeping their pay how it is keeps them from retiring.
Turnover at preload is a different. And for the most part, it's a young man's job. I don't think it's fair a few people get crushed nearly everyday of the work week for the same pay rate as others who do half the work.

 

[rod]

Many part timers in my building are fed up with the workload and poverty wages. Expect a no vote from them unless they get $2-3 bump in pay.

I would expect them not to vote at all just like every other contract.

 

[rod]

Turnover at preload is a different. And for the most part, it's a young man's job. I don't think it's fair a few people get crushed nearly everyday of the work week for the same pay rate as others who do half the work.

May not be fair but that's the way it is. Work safe--. How did you come up with the name SolidWoodPanel?

 

[542thruNthru]

It is a can of worms. But it's also the problem of seniority pay instead of actual merit. It's usually the most experienced drivers taking the easiest routes, and therefore less risk. And I'm fine with that for drivers. Keeping their pay how it is keeps them from retiring.
Turnover at preload is a different. And for the most part, it's a young man's job. I don't think it's fair a few people get crushed nearly everyday of the work week for the same pay rate as others who do half the work.

Seniority is everything. Those people getting crushed can work at a safe pace. Meaning they can load the same amount of packages a hour a guy doing a lighter load can. The moment we go to a merit based pay is the moment we let the company dictate how we get paid.

Sorry man. I think it's a horrible idea. To many issues would come from it.

 

[SolidWoodPanel]

May not be fair but that's the way it is. Work safe--. How did you come up with the name SolidWoodPanel?

The way it is, is that the top 1% of wealthy Americans make 3/4 of a million dollars but doing jack scot.

I came up with the name because a had a stain grade solid wood panel next to my computer desk when I made this account. It is now a lovely table top.

 

[rod]

The way it is, is that the top 1% of wealthy Americans make 3/4 of a million dollars but doing jack scot.

I came up with the name because a had a stain grade solid wood panel next to my computer desk when I made this account. It is now a lovely table top.

well that explains that. I thought it had something to do with Viagra.

 

[SolidWoodPanel]

Seniority is everything. Those people getting crushed can work at a safe pace. Meaning they can load the same amount of packages a hour a guy doing a lighter load can. The moment we go to a merit based pay is the moment we let the company dictate how we get paid.

Sorry man. I think it's a horrible idea. To many issues would come from it.

Umm, have you ever worked preload? If we all start at the same time, how is guy supposed to load packages at the same pace when drivers all have their start time? I'm not trying to destroy seniority pay. Again, I'm talking about preloaders, most of whom are under 25. Why can't the small percentage of guys who are working 25% harder than the rest just get .25 to .50 cent more an hour? We have in our building already a so-called skilled work pay which you .75 cents more when you can load 3 trucks.

In my own experience, I had days where I was loading 4 trucks. Sometimes 400 more pieces than the guy next to me. During peak one year, I loaded over 1600 packages one day, and the guy next to me had just over 900 hundred.

I just think those loaders that work hard, and perform well consistently should get a raise. The better one of them does their job, the easier it should be for drivers, and therefore the company would perform better and more efficiently.

 

[SolidWoodPanel]

well that explains that. I thought it had something to do with Viagra.

To clarify, that's how much they make solely in stock dividends. I thought I had a decent portfolio bringing in around $1400 a year.

 

[542thruNthru]

Umm, have you ever worked preload? If we all start at the same time, how is guy supposed to load packages at the same pace when drivers all have their start time? I'm not trying to destroy seniority pay. Again, I'm talking about preloaders, most of whom are under 25. Why can't the small percentage of guys who are working 25% harder than the rest just get .25 to .50 cent more an hour? We have in our building already a so-called skilled work pay which you .75 cents more when you can load 3 trucks.

In my own experience, I had days where I was loading 4 trucks. Sometimes 400 more pieces than the guy next to me. During peak one year, I loaded over 1600 packages one day, and the guy next to me had just over 900 hundred.

I just think those loaders that work hard, and perform well consistently should get a raise. The better one of them does their job, the easier it should be for drivers, and therefore the company would perform better and more efficiently.

Yes I have worked preload, for 9 years actually.

See that's the problem. Just because he has a heavy pull doesn't mean he has to work faster. The preloader should work the same safe pace as a person with a lighter load.

If they need it to be done faster then he should be sent help. If they don't then his bonus is the extra hours he gets a week for having such a heavy work load.

I get what you are saying but again the company would take advantage of it in many ways.

Imagine a sups buddy doing that heavy area and getting higher pay. Then he is always getting help so he can finish. That's just 1 small example. They could easily change numbers just like with drivers bonus times.

Merit pay has no place in our work. Why do you think so many drivers hate bonus centers.

 

[WorknLateHuh]

when im puting together the customers’ value meal i can fill the french fries much faster than most employees. where is my pay increase?

 

[Poop Head]

Why do you think so many drivers hate bonus centers.

Jealousy

 

[eats packages]

$2 more an hour would equate to at least a $2000 bump in annual salary. That's a nice start, but some people deserve that. 75% probably don't. I'd rather see the loaders who can handle the higher volume pulls get bonuses, especially if they don't have any misloads. There's a big difference when someone's loading 800 packages versus 600.

absolutely no
https://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/new-contract-creation-of-heavy-loader-class.375078/
also 800 is one of the lowest numbers on the line, heavy industrial park pieces.
Go to any of my endless storms of posts and I will tell you that time allowances on preload need to be bumped up first, hell our wage increase has only lead to an impossible time allowance.